Good digital night camera?

[bobbins]

Originally Posted by aphplumb12

if you can get one a canon g4/ g5/ g6 they have a flip round screen a remote for self takes and they work wonders for night time shots they also have a raw file setting allowing you to edit the photo your self but would sugest using this mode for day time shots, ive owend all 3 of these cameras and still use the g5 and g6 they also have a adapter on the top for a flash canon which is basicaly a big flash that eluminates the background even more. these cameras popup on ebay quite alot and on here also and are verey cheap

heres a g5 for £63.50 buy now on ebay Item number: 120297107490 just copy and paste the item number

It is night time shots and flash shots which you will benifit more from using Raw as you can componsate for over or under exposure very easily and is usually the time when pics get ****ed up !!

[aphplumb12]

Originally Posted by bobbins

It is night time shots and flash shots which you will benifit more from using Raw as you can componsate for over or under exposure very easily and is usually the time when pics get ****ed up !!

yes i know mate but the person that originaly started the thread said he wasnt an expert at cameras thats why i sugested just using raw for day time shots.

[astburyblank]

OK Many thanks for the replys, before I spend my cash please list the top 3 cameras available between £50 - £150 max I need the camera to be pretty easy to use, have a remote or the capability of a remote, auto focus which would take the best night photos and with the J-peg / raw option. As I've said before I'm no expert and am reading all posts accordingly. Thanks for your time to help it is much appreciated.

[aphplumb12]

Originally Posted by astburyblank

OK Many thanks for the replys, before I spend my cash please list the top 3 cameras available between £50 - £150 max I need the camera to be pretty easy to use, have a remote or the capability of a remote, auto focus which would take the best night photos and with the J-peg / raw option. As I've said before I'm no expert and am reading all posts accordingly. Thanks for your time to help it is much appreciated.

as i posted mate the g4 g5 g6 they all have flip round screens and wireless remote support the raw/jpeg file and are easy to use the one on ebay is a good price and does all that the two photos on my profile the night shot common and the day mirror have been taken i raw then edited to fine tune

[carp junkie]

Originally Posted by bobbins

The sensor ( the part that the picture is exposed onto which has replaced the old film we used to use) on a camera with 10,000 pixels has on its surface 10,000 little tiles that are light sensitive, when you take a picture with your camera the image which comes through the lens is projected onto its surface which it then reproduces via some software in your cam and converts it into a picture now here comes the difference between Raw and j-Peg files , when the camera is set to take pics in j-peg the sensor doesn't use all the 10,000 tiles so it has to guess for the ones not being used which means you are not using the 10,000 pixels you thought you were, add to that every time you open, save or edit a jpeg file you loose even more information because it is compressed when it is saved. Now a picture taken in Raw uses all the tiles on the sensor so you have true representation of what you shot and not an edited version like the j-peg, plus when you start editing it it doesn’t loose any quality due to the file not being compressed when it is saved.

pixels were only mentioned to simplify things in an easy way for him instead of killing his brain cell with complicated stuff nobody understands

[bobbins]

Originally Posted by carp junkie

pixels were only mentioned to simplify things in an easy way for him instead of killing his brain cell with complicated stuff nobody understands

That’s is why I explained it the way I did people seem to think the higher the pixels the cam has the better the photo's you will get which isn’t the case, that’s one reason we should all go and buy a book on our chosen camera so we understand it and get the most from it, you don’t have to be David Bailey to take good shots once you understand a little about what you are doing, anyone who owns a camera and taking self shots shouldn't be using the auto feature you should have it on one of the manual settings and learn which one works for you in certain situations and save the auto function for when you pass the camera over to someone else to take yours pics, carp fishing is one of them sports weather you are the best or a novice we all spend plenty of time twiddling our thumbs so what better than buying a book on your chosen cam and start clicking away and learning while on the bank so what ever camera you buy make sure you get a good book to accompany it and it will open up a whole new way you look at taking your pics.

[bobbins]

Originally Posted by aphplumb12

yes i know mate but the person that originaly started the thread said he wasnt an expert at cameras thats why i sugested just using raw for day time shots.

I wasn't having a go mate i just thought if he could set it up in RAW for day shots it would be no more difficult for night shots.Although i think most Canons won't shoot Raw in auto mode so you may be right.

[astburyblank]

OK lads dropped on a Canon G2 which I think will be sufficient for me, may improve if and when required, its got an extra card + all the stuff it originally came with, would I need an extra flash for night pictures or not? I will have a play but don't really have much time before we go to France. Mucho Gracious

[aphplumb12]

Originally Posted by bobbins

I wasn't having a go mate i just thought if he could set it up in RAW for day shots it would be no more difficult for night shots.Although i think most Canons won't shoot Raw in auto mode so you may be right.

no probs mate

[aphplumb12]

Originally Posted by astburyblank

OK lads dropped on a Canon G2 which I think will be sufficient for me, may improve if and when required, its got an extra card + all the stuff it originally came with, would I need an extra flash for night pictures or not? I will have a play but don't really have much time before we go to France. Mucho Gracious

snap it up it looks like a good deal and you shouldnt need a flash cannon for it the flash on them are prety good

[sos]

dont know why anyone would buy a digi cam, they are all a compromise, like the man says dont focus too much on megapixels, buy a 2nd hand dslr, they batter any digicam, i had a canon d30' it was only 3 megapixels, laughable you would think but i have an A3 size photo of my lady on the wall taken off that camera. id buy an old d30 before any digicam of any megapixel. the g series of digicams are of better quality thou. i use a 3 year old canon 20D now with a dedicated flash gun. put it on a tripod with a wired release £40 ish put camera on self take, press button then got 10 seconds to lift fish before camera takes. turn fish round, press button another ten seconds, lift unhooking gradle take to side of lake ,place fish back in water. job done. never had to leave fishs side.

[peebee]

good software for processing raw files is photoshop elements. Vesion 7 is the latest version it's about £80 to buy but has everything you need to edit your raw files and convert them to jpeg for printing at your local photo shop, tesco's Jessops or wherever.It has it's own catologueing system and you can print your own send by email and all that kind of stuff there are plenty of raw editing software solutions out ther capture one adobe lightroom, Adobe photoshop, all are very good but can get over complicated and expensive most of them if you find their websites do a 30 day free trial.