How can you define a 'Carp fishing expert'

[Deano]

Just reading through another forum and came across this particular issue. It is basically asking whether or not the editor of a particular magazine whos PB is in the 20lb+ category can be defined as a credible expert who can dole out advice on how to catch carp or more importantly big carp whatever size big might be.

Whats your thoughts on this issue.Is a consistent carp catcher a credible expert catching consistently or does it have to be a long campaign man who puts plenty of time in and lands the odd whacker more of an 'expert' or is size irrelevant and its just a case of if they catch whats in front of them on a regular basis they are an 'expert' ....Its an interesting one, I have my opinions but would like to hear yours

[russ]

tricky one but in my opinion it would be someone who could catch consistently and not necessarily " big " fish either and someone who could comfortably adapt to most situations and most waters and then be capable of explaining what they did and how they did it .

[Hotshot]

Top reply Braidman and puts a lot into prospective

I get the feeling/impression though, that a carp magazine editor is going to have an opinion on everything and has to be seen to offer advice on every aspect. If this is the case (it may not be) then I would say he has to be a consistant catcher of carp but from all types of waters. Rivers, canals, tricky pressured lakes right up to pressured difficult lakes, unfished low stock pits Il leave out, but had the "expert" fished the first four types of venues Ive mentioned I would expect his p.b to be above the 20lb bracket, so in this case I suspect he aint been around that long and is in no real position to offer advice. I may be wrong, but thats how I see it from looking at the original post.

[Ginge]

if its the person i am thinking then aint that magazine helping new comers to the sport ???

[tenchmaster]

who are ya on about?

pm?

[netbustercarp]

sounds like the editor of total carp 2 me,nothing wrong with only havin a 20+ as your pb,its all about consistency.

marc coulson i think.

quote 'I'm happy catching fish of any size and a big fish is a bonus' Marc coulson.

Nowt wrong with that imo

Like the missus says 'size isn't everything'

[matpreston]

as long as the articles he writes are imformative and your learning then i cant see why his pb should be mentioned i mean the enzyme thread was to me better than any magazine ive bought for a good while because its something i no very little about and now feel im a little wiser for it (lesson number 1 dont go on a social with deano! yawn!) the thing is hes trying to make a living doing something he enjoys which is something wed all love the chance to do enjoy work!

[Smurph]

Originally Posted by matpreston

as long as the articles he writes are imformative and your learning then i cant see why his pb should be mentioned i mean the enzyme thread was to me better than any magazine ive bought for a good while because its something i no very little about and now feel im a little wiser for it (lesson number 1 dont go on a social with deano! yawn!) the thing is hes trying to make a living doing something he enjoys which is something wed all love the chance to do enjoy work!

Agreed!!

[matpreston]

Originally Posted by Smurph

Agreed!!

what do you agree with dont social with deano!

[kevw]

It's unfair to judge someone's angling ability or knowledge by their pb, many very good anglers have fished for years on waters were the biggest fish are mid-20's and it doesn't make them less of an expert than the angler with a few thirties to his name.

You can always learn something new and it doesn't always have to be from an expert

[Stig]

Originally Posted by Deano

is size irrelevant and its just a case of if they catch whats in front of them on a regular basis they are an 'expert' ....Its an interesting one, I have my opinions but would like to hear yours

Thats all any of us can do you cant catch fish that are not there infront of you to catch . Even if you go and find them by stalking them that still puts them infront of you .

The term expert is a word that is banded about with far to much ease by people these days in my mind an expert is someone who knows everything about a certain subject no grey areas or bit he/she doesnt know about to be a true expert you have to know all there is on you chossen subject.
If anyone can show me an angler who claims to know everything about Carping,match fishing or any other branch of our sport and i will be very surprised that anyone would have the gonadal fortitude to make such an outrageous claim

[Blue]

I don't see how anyone can judge another person without really knowing them as an angler and in person. I know, and have met and fished with a few on here, so can therefore formulate a rough guess at their angling ability, based on what I consider to be a good angler. But what I consider to be a good angler will differ from others, so it's difficult for one person to pass judgment and make their opinion relevant, it needs a majority vote IMO to say who's capable or not if it was ever to come to some sort of official status! (I don't condone that last sentence by the way, I think it would be a terrible thing if someones credibility as an angler was ever voted for!)

There are so many factors though that govern what the make up of a credible expert is, and my factors will then differ with other peoples factors, so the potential to mis judge someone is massive. Take for example an angler who has been at it for a few years, he might look at said magazine editor and read that this guy has caught a few, ignore the size aspect because it isn't relevant, but based on what this guy writes and how he comes across in the magazine, will roughly conclude that this guy understands what he is on about because he makes sense and talks from vast experience.

Now take your new comer/youngster who started carping 2 months ago and thinks Terry Hearn literally sh**s 30 pound carp, and has the attitude that 'big is best', they might read that Mr. Editor has only caught carp to 20+, so how can he possibly teach me to land a 40! Through lack of understanding, inexperienced anglers could possibly label him a bit of a 'noddy' and look elsewhere for their role model.

There are people on here whom I've never met or personally spoke with, I don't know their PB nor care what it is, but when I see a post of theirs I read it and absorb bits of info because in my mind, based on how they portray themselves through their writing, I know they talk from experience and have the same outlook on their carping I have. I dare say others on here do the same, it's a personal thing.

To judge someones angling ability purely based on their PB is pure ignorance IMO, it's almost as shallow as a child in school who see's the school bully as his/her role model because he's/she's 'the hardest in the school' so to speak. There's a lot more to an angler than their PB.

[Smurph]

does he actually say he is a carp expert??

[Stig]

Originally Posted by Smurph

does he actually say he is a carp expert??

As i stated in my post i dont think anyone would have the b**ls to say that about themself.

Therefore i dont know if he has said he is an expert however after reading the initial post in this thread i/we must presume that someone has branded him an expert if not he himself that is