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Old 10-12-2007, 05:44 PM
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After reading the thread on the best joke you've pulled on a mate thread i was wondering what the general consensus of people views at drinking on the bank. Do some people think that a total ban on alcohol whilst fishing should be put in place by clubs/syndicates or do others enjoy having a beer or two whilst out fishing. I've just finished on a water where officially there is an alcohol ban but drinking is done on the bankside and there is no problem with the acting baliffs.This is just the way it is and the way it's always been and i've noty got a problem with that. I know of lads who are on there just because they can have a beer without worrying about getting thrown of the lake. i myself enjoy having a few beers or a bottle of red whilst dangling and this may annoy people who believe that there shouldn't be any drinking done whilst fishing. i don't get in a mess but it's a way of unwinding and enjoying myself whilst i participate in my favourite pastime. Would some people not join a club or syndicate if there is an alcohol ban? Personally I would sacrifice having a beer to fish a water which i want to fish and it wouldn't bother me in the slightest. What are peoples thoughts on people getting leathered on the bank. I can't get my head round it and feel that it's dangerous and selfish. dangerous in the way that they could hurt themselves, other anglers or the fish and selfish as this behaviour is what leads to total alcohol bans in the first place and and ruins it for the more responsible people. I may open a can of worms over this but would just like to see peoples views.
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Old 10-12-2007, 05:57 PM
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I don't mind having an odd beer but i wouldn't get smashed tho as i agree dangerous and irresponsible...
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If your of the correct age and a responsible adult then i dont see a problem.Just when you get the chavs on the bank drinking and effing and jeffing dosnt look good and tends to put off serious carpers from wanting to fish and also it sends out the wrong message to young anglers.
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Old 10-12-2007, 06:05 PM
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Well I would ban it for one reason - if you allow Alcohol anywhere then there are people out there that will abuse it so if its banned then there is no grey areas. Imagine the middle of Winter minus 3 your all snug in your bag with 6 cans downed and you get a 2 bleeper are you going to hear it?

Plus I have seen guys legless trying to land, unhook, handle and photograph fish! its an accident waiting to happen.

I know they are lots of sensible drinkers out there but I think you have to legislate for the idiots so ban it and protect the fish and the angler.
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Old 10-12-2007, 06:09 PM
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I agree with you to a certain extent mate but i believe in banning the people who are getting leathered rather than the people who don't abuse it. The people who are getting legless obviously have no respect for what they are doing drunk or sober so i feel that it's them that should go.
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Personally i think the place for boozing is the pub however i am not against anyone having the odd can when doing a sesh but those who turn up with a crate of wife beater and spend all day/night drinking them then try and tell me they have no problem waking up if they get a run are telling fibs.Well big fat whopping lies to be exact

Anyone found drunk, nearly drunk or non compus mentus/not in control of their faculties for any other reason while carping should be banned from carping if not a complete fishing ban forever and their tackle , club cards and rod licence(S) confiscated


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Old 10-12-2007, 06:13 PM
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Agreed. But the problem is Bailiffs are not around on a lot of lakes at night and thats when these idiots start knocking it back and are sober come daylight. But I agree drinking in moderation is fine its just a shame there are the Ballons out there that put fish and themselves at risk by overdoing it.
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After reading the thread on the best joke you've pulled on a mate thread i was wondering what the general consensus of people views at drinking on the bank. Do some people think that a total ban on alcohol whilst fishing should be put in place by clubs/syndicates or do others enjoy having a beer or two whilst out fishing. I've just finished on a water where officially there is an alcohol ban but drinking is done on the bankside and there is no problem with the acting baliffs.This is just the way it is and the way it's always been and i've noty got a problem with that. I know of lads who are on there just because they can have a beer without worrying about getting thrown of the lake. i myself enjoy having a few beers or a bottle of red whilst dangling and this may annoy people who believe that there shouldn't be any drinking done whilst fishing. i don't get in a mess but it's a way of unwinding and enjoying myself whilst i participate in my favourite pastime. Would some people not join a club or syndicate if there is an alcohol ban? Personally I would sacrifice having a beer to fish a water which i want to fish and it wouldn't bother me in the slightest. What are peoples thoughts on people getting leathered on the bank. I can't get my head round it and feel that it's dangerous and selfish. dangerous in the way that they could hurt themselves, other anglers or the fish and selfish as this behaviour is what leads to total alcohol bans in the first place and and ruins it for the more responsible people. I may open a can of worms over this but would just like to see peoples views.
PLUS, what about the ones that get smoked off there heads shouldnt ban one without the other
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Old 10-12-2007, 06:18 PM
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Spot on mate its as bad if not worse in some cases.
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I like to have a drink on the bank i dont get leggless but i enjoy a few cans whilst im fishing. It helps me unwind and relax and in the correct hands its good when you can have a social wi your mates. But for the people that go one step further and get steaming then it is upto the members/day tickets to let the owners no? because not only are they a danger to others and the fish they are also endagering themselves. no one wants drunken people shouting/balling ruining the effort that you put into fishing but no one also wants to not be able to have a shandy on the bank. if your responsable to have a drink all well and good,but if you see others shandy capped then let the people know who can do something about it because they cant watch over the lake 24/7 so then you are helping out the owners,fishery and yourself
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Old 10-12-2007, 06:39 PM
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Again it's the moderation thing. being though it's illegal in the first instance if you get caught chonging on most club waters your gonna get thrown off no matter how far gone you are.

The reason that i put this thread up is basically on how i feel overall on the way the country's going. In the last 10 years some things that were once deemed acceptable are rightly or wrongly now not. The problem that i have is that of things being taken away from you on the pretence of what others have done and that of the politically correct world is going too extreme for my taste. It drives me mad that i can't have a smoke in my work van on me own as it's "a public place of work" ?!?! or i can't have a bottle of pop whilst fishing at a club waters lake " to stop litter" as i'm sure to lob it on the floor just after i've finished it. I feel like it's back being at school where your told what to do all the time and aren't allowed to make any rational decisions on your own because your not old enough to do better.

As i said earlier bans won't stop me from joining a water if i feel it's right for me and i want to fish it and i'll adhere to any rules as i'm not the sort to break rules. I just feel as if what little lifes getting more restricting all the time and i just wondered what peoples views are on it.
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i hear what your saying pal people think they have a right in everything now! but not sure if its a good thing or bad??
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i am under 18 and have to say i find drunken middle aged men on the bank shouting abuse very intimidating.
i for one dont mind the odd beer on the bank but think its a disgrace if your plastered and still carry on fishing.
i mean at least wind your rods in! its irrsponsible angling
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After reading the thread on the best joke you've pulled on a mate thread i was wondering what the general consensus of people views at drinking on the bank. Do some people think that a total ban on alcohol whilst fishing should be put in place by clubs/syndicates or do others enjoy having a beer or two whilst out fishing. I've just finished on a water where officially there is an alcohol ban but drinking is done on the bankside and there is no problem with the acting baliffs.This is just the way it is and the way it's always been and i've noty got a problem with that. I know of lads who are on there just because they can have a beer without worrying about getting thrown of the lake. i myself enjoy having a few beers or a bottle of red whilst dangling and this may annoy people who believe that there shouldn't be any drinking done whilst fishing. i don't get in a mess but it's a way of unwinding and enjoying myself whilst i participate in my favourite pastime. Would some people not join a club or syndicate if there is an alcohol ban? Personally I would sacrifice having a beer to fish a water which i want to fish and it wouldn't bother me in the slightest. What are peoples thoughts on people getting leathered on the bank. I can't get my head round it and feel that it's dangerous and selfish. dangerous in the way that they could hurt themselves, other anglers or the fish and selfish as this behaviour is what leads to total alcohol bans in the first place and and ruins it for the more responsible people. I may open a can of worms over this but would just like to see peoples views.
A couple of beers on your own under your own bivvy is fine

Its the bankside parties i cant stand. If you wanna fish FISH
If you wanna drink walk to the PUB.

I have recently walked away from some local club waters with big fish in them for this very reason It seems to be a drinking club and not a fishing club anymore

In my books they were the best club in the NW i rank them as pretty low now
£130 a year for beer parties even there biggest fish a 35+ common comes out about 20 times a year

One of my trips on their waters resulted in 2x20's and a high double in 5 hours fishing and i am still prepared to walk away

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dont get me wrong i do enjoy a good social and often have them down south and yes we have a few.. these are what are called social weekends.. and the social is what its about.. usually i dont end up fishing !

on the odd exception i will take a beer to said waters that i am thinking blacky is on about but as someone else mentioned.. they get cracked open when the bailiff has gone and done his rounds, on my own its a couple of cans nothing much.. just something to have when you have set up and cant be doing with cracking the kettle on!

i do know which waters blacky is on and have witnessed socials on there all summer.. the old boys moaning their heads off as they are too rowdy etc.. but the bailiffs often go and join in whilst on their rounds. i wouldnt get slaughtered on my own.. think safety etc... how the smokers do it i dont know, but even still you can have some sense of safety even if you have had a smoke.

in a nutshell use common sense it always prevails
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