When you cast out do you??

[daveabbott]

Right heres something thats bothered me for a while now!

When you guys or girls cast out, when the lead hits the bottom do you pull it back abit to make sure your rigs sitting nicely on the bottom??

Or do you just cast the rod and put it on the alarm and wait??

Personally i have been recently casting and pulling it back abit not much a foot or so, its just a confidece thing really but i was thinking if you are using stringers or bags when you pull it back are you pulling your rig a foot or so away from the free offerings? if the bag melts or string quick you book bait could be away from the offerings!

is it best just to cast and leave it!

help please

[BRUN]

if you watch the Korda DVDs then you will see that you should never pull back

any weed etc and your just dragging your rig through it, possibly even the hook, meaning your not going to catch anything, and if your planning on leaving that rig out overnight then dont expect to get woken up by the sound of your alarms

Never Pull Back ????


that would surely depend on the density of the silt you are fishing into surely

[IanB]

Depends on the bottoms make up. If its weedy or choddy pulling back is likely to result in the hook point picking up debris that will hinder a pickup or hooking the fish. Pulling pack on gravel pits can also blunt the point.

The only times ive ever pulled back are in deep clean silt or clay.

99.99999999% of the time after donkeys years of carping ive just left it and i catch my fair share.

[BRUN]

Originally Posted by Phil highlander

Never Pull Back ????


that would surely depend on the density of the silt you are fishing into surely

well, yes, with silt you usually need to, but otherwise, no, dont pull back

Er have you never heard of dissolving presentation foam?
This stuff enables you to firstly sit back and relax knowing your hair/hook point hasn't tangled/been compromised on a leaf/bit of weed and also enables you to unplug your lead from the silt if desired.Having watched the farce that is Korda U/W vids I feel more confident that my lead isn't buried two foot into the silt as this does no good whatsoever in bite indication...and using the U/W vid as a comparison is a load of pony for us Norvernerrs as they were filmed on gravelly hard bottoms which is far removed from a *****ty silty bottom commonly found on a large % of our venues.

I prefer to pull back with the foam on as I'm happy in the knowledge that the rig is exposed thus IMO increasing the likelyhood fish will come across my hookbait sooner rather than later.Moreso is the fact that Danny Fairamountofbrass will NOT dictate to me how to fish so whatever he thinks I will do the exact opposite... heh heh heh

[silverbirch]

There is no simple answer it's a 50:50 call. you could wreck a perfect, line to the bottom, tangle free presentation, you could mask the hook on a twig...similary you could flick things out to give a perfect lie....these are the doubt's we all cope with on every cast...the truth is until korda invent a clip-lead with a transmitting camera we will always carry the worry of a poorly presented bait.....I look at it like this, the chances are that one of the rigs(fishing multiple rods) will offer a suitable presentation and chill with that thought..!!!

With underwater camera's and transponding depth and fish plotting technology arriving the solutions may be at hand...... but for me...keep it old skool and drop the paranoia

Stay confident that all is ok from behind the rods and 90% of the time it probably is..they just won't pick the damn thing up for love nor money...

[TheDoctor46]

In silt you can usually feel when you gently pull the lead out and it sits on top, have to pull gently.

[northernbadger]

When everything hits the water and you've felt the lead down keeping things tight then you'll find its gonna be straight anyway.

[Blue]

I never pull back. Ever. It's personal preference really though I think. I like to feather the cast down as much as possible, so instead of the lead just plummeting head first into the water with hooklink following, I try to slow it down a bit just as it's nearing the water then stop the whole lot as it enters the water. Hopefully, swinging the hooking round a bit so it hits the water more more neatly

Id like to pull back. In theory it would straighten out the rig and it would all be nice and neat.....BUT, the moment I move the rig, I get all sorts of nasty visions of twigs stuck on the hook point, leaves all over the hook, bait buried in silt. I've tried rig foam, but it still does nothing for my confidence. So I just settle for letting it all just fall down through the water on to whatever I'm fishing over.

The only time I have pulled back is when I've been fishing over a hard gravel bottom when I'm fishing pop ups. Just as the rigs landed, give a quick tug back(the rig ) As in theory, all the important bits are away from nasty twigs and hook blunting stones etc..

[daveabbott]

cheers lads that should help!

its just been bothering me for some time now, i only started doing pulling it back a month or so ago, and it was allways on hard bottomed lakes just down to confidence! think big pva bags will be the answer to having my perfect perfect bait presentation! cheers again lads

[smokey]

NEVER NEVER PULL BANK ... feather your cast down .in doin this you will force your hook link foward and with a bit of foam attatched to the hook ..PERFECT BEEP BEEPP BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE ... O i was havin a day dream then lol

smokey

[daveabbott]

but say using pva nuggets does it not end up right next to the lead like in the pic? its all about confidece this, i need to watch those Korda Dvds i think

or just big bags like!

[Bet]

I use pva nuggets but add a tapered rig sleeve to braid links to act as a boom,I've watched as the nugget dissolves and the hookbait settles nicely away from the lead.

[kerrwaf]

Originally Posted by daveabbott

but say using pva nuggets does it not end up right next to the lead like in the pic? its all about confidece this, i need to watch those Korda Dvds i think

or just big bags like!

Not if you use a stiffish hooklength. The stiffness will push the bait away from the lead so it sits nice and neat.