Even the Times is in on the act! Good read!

[carp junkie]

i have one but i had'nt used it for well over 12month till 2 weeks ago when i got it out to test it and i hated it ! it felt like my arms had been cut off as i enjoy casting and get a buzz of it lol they have there uses though but if anyones after 1 i have a microcat with rf15 fishfinder (built in with long range modification) available at a very good price

[salford flier]

Bit like confession at St marks this, shame on you all that have confessed their sins and may the lord find mercy on your carp fishing soul.

Seven Hail Queen Mary's should do for starters... then sit in a darkened room and tell yourself you are a cheat.

What on earth has a bait boat got to do with angling? Boats are used for fishing, which fishing loosely fits into the terms as TRAWLING.


Angling is done with rod and line, as it always has.

[Carp Now and Then]

Hi all
Carp Now and Then STRIKES BACK.
Anyone using a bait boat should be shot,any captures do not count.You are not anglers and should take up golf or some other girlie sport. dropping hook baits from boats is CHEATING.

[grubby pants]

What a load of nonsense. The country is on the verge of financial meltdown and some angler who works for the Times is allowed the editorial space to spout off about bait boats.

Its simple really, if you don’t want to use a boat then don’t use one. Why should other anglers using them bother you? At the end of the day if fish caught with the aid of a boat “don’t count” then what is the problem? They don’t count, so does that not make them irrelevant?

Some people appear to get very hot under the collar over something that is so irrelevant.

What makes me laugh is people taking the moral high ground who then go and sit behind a couple of grand’s worth of technology. You are either a purist and reject the modern approach or you are not, you cant sit with your bum on both fences.

So if you reject everything modern i.e. bite alarms, hair rigs, bolt rigs, carbon rods, heavy leads, sleeping while fishing, catapults (what have they got to do with angling they are a boys toy or a hunting tool are they not? ) etc, then lets hear your arguments.

Given that I doubt there are many forum members who practice carp angling with a cane rod and a quill float I don’t expect many arguments that are not tainted with hypocrisy.

[bobbins]

Originally Posted by grubby pants

What a load of nonsense. The country is on the verge of financial meltdown and some angler who works for the Times is allowed the editorial space to spout off about bait boats.

Its simple really, if you don’t want to use a boat then don’t use one. Why should other anglers using them bother you? At the end of the day if fish caught with the aid of a boat “don’t count” then what is the problem? They don’t count, so does that not make them irrelevant?

Some people appear to get very hot under the collar over something that is so irrelevant.

What makes me laugh is people taking the moral high ground who then go and sit behind a couple of grand’s worth of technology. You are either a purist and reject the modern approach or you are not, you cant sit with your bum on both fences.

So if you reject everything modern i.e. bite alarms, hair rigs, bolt rigs, carbon rods, heavy leads, sleeping while fishing, catapults (what have they got to do with angling they are a boys toy or a hunting tool are they not? ) etc, then lets hear your arguments.

Given that I doubt there are many forum members who practice carp angling with a cane rod and a quill float I don’t expect many arguments that are not tainted with hypocrisy.

Didn't **** Walker make himself a bite alarm ??????

[Chesh]

Originally Posted by Carp Now and Then

Hi all
Carp Now and Then STRIKES BACK.
.

is that the new title of Spielbergs new Star Wars movie?

(Cue the rolling text up the screen)

In galaxy far far away...
Carp now and then lived
on his own... with no
friends and only an copy
of the 1982 February
edition penthouse to keep
him amused...

Carp Now and Then decided
that enough is enough and
he should attempt to find
new friends... he journyed to
the place they call Macclesfield
to find new friends..

Upon arrival he was met with
scenes of joy.. families.. (most
of them brothers and sisters)
came out in force to see what
had come to meet them.. when
they actualy saw him they were
bitterly dissapointed with how
he looked and spoke.. and went
back in home, dissapointed with
'The One That Promised So Much'
(and subsequently delivered very
little)

Will Carp Now And Then ever make
friends.............

(ps.. there is a good side to this and
that is on his way back to his planet
upmyownarse he found the 1982
March edition of Penthouse)

NB.. anyone from Macc reading this.. no offence is meant to be caused by using your township in my post

[grubby pants]

Originally Posted by bobbins

Didn't **** Walker make himself a bite alarm ??????

My point exactly!

He and fellow users got a lot of stick over it as well. The arguments against were mostly about angling ethics and mirror much of what is being said today about bait boats.

Alarms are now considered standard kit, don't even raise an eyebrow, and the guy is considered the father of modern Carp angling. Quite rightly so!

People who still disapprove of alarms are considered with mild amusement as crusty old eccentrics.

You can not stop the march or time or the advancement of technology.

You embrace it or get left behind in its wake.

[chukie]

I think we should all chip in and buy The Newbie a bait boat for Christmas as he never seem's to shut up about them it's like being back at school " I haven't got one so they must be no good and cheating " if yer don't like em don't use em just go out do yer own thing and sod everyone else around yer

[The Newbie]

Originally Posted by chukie

I think we should all chip in and buy The Newbie a bait boat for Christmas as he never seem's to shut up about them it's like being back at school " I haven't got one so they must be no good and cheating " if yer don't like em don't use em just go out do yer own thing and sod everyone else around yer

The cash will be fine thanks. Not into model boating

[carp junkie]

Originally Posted by grubby pants

What a load of nonsense. The country is on the verge of financial meltdown and some angler who works for the Times is allowed the editorial space to spout off about bait boats.

Its simple really, if you don’t want to use a boat then don’t use one. Why should other anglers using them bother you? At the end of the day if fish caught with the aid of a boat “don’t count” then what is the problem? They don’t count, so does that not make them irrelevant?

Some people appear to get very hot under the collar over something that is so irrelevant.

What makes me laugh is people taking the moral high ground who then go and sit behind a couple of grand’s worth of technology. You are either a purist and reject the modern approach or you are not, you cant sit with your bum on both fences.

So if you reject everything modern i.e. bite alarms, hair rigs, bolt rigs, carbon rods, heavy leads, sleeping while fishing, catapults (what have they got to do with angling they are a boys toy or a hunting tool are they not? ) etc, then lets hear your arguments.

Given that I doubt there are many forum members who practice carp angling with a cane rod and a quill float I don’t expect many arguments that are not tainted with hypocrisy.

there is no argument everything else is personal choice
well done that man

[bobbins]

Originally Posted by grubby pants

My point exactly!

He and fellow users got a lot of stick over it as well. The arguments against were mostly about angling ethics and mirror much of what is being said today about bait boats.

Alarms are now considered standard kit, don't even raise an eyebrow, and the guy is considered the father of modern Carp angling. Quite rightly so!

People who still disapprove of alarms are considered with mild amusement as crusty old eccentrics.

You can not stop the march or time or the advancement of technology.

You embrace it or get left behind in its wake.

I understand what you are saying, but a bite alarm is completely different to a bait boat!!! a bite alarm is a good invention in specimen angling and as well as making life easier for the angler it also makes it safer for the fish we pursue, im sure there are many people without alarms many moons ago sat by their rods all night fighting sleep off and failing, to awake to a rod half off its rest and locked tight in a snag or had it dragged in!! where as a bait boat does nothing for fish welfare and it could be argued it is detrimental to fish welfare because it allows people to fish in areas the fish consider their safe haven be it 200 yards out in the middle of a lake or under some bushes in some snags, this in turn must put the fish under extra stress which cant be good them.

[The Newbie]

Originally Posted by chukie

I think we should all chip in and buy The Newbie a bait boat for Christmas as he never seem's to shut up about them it's like being back at school " I haven't got one so they must be no good and cheating " if yer don't like em don't use em just go out do yer own thing and sod everyone else around yer

I like to keep it topical as it keeps numpties like you occupied whilst your batteries are charging for your next boating session!

[chukie]

Originally Posted by The Newbie

I like to keep it topical as it keeps numpties like you occupied whilst your batteries are charging for your next boating session!

An I suppose you never cast up a tree leaveing tackle dangling for the wildlife to find , drop a spod in some one else's swim because it's not cheating.Recast 20 times just to get it on the right spot.Stand there trying to do the impossible cast then dropping it in the margins because after a hour you find you will never reach the spot but it don't matter because you tryed and it's not cheating.For god's sake just go out catch the fish for yourself not other's and let other's catch them as they want.Yes I do own a bait boat no I don't use it everytime i'm fishing hardly ever if I can make the cast then so be it a cast it is but there are time's I use it but that's up to me I fish for myself and really don't care what other's think there is enough backbiting on the bank nowadays with what yer can and can't do.

[bobbins]

Originally Posted by chukie

an i suppose you never cast up a tree leaveing tackle dangling for the wildlife to find , drop a spod in some one else's swim because it's not cheating.recast 20 times just to get it on the right spot.stand there trying to do the impossible cast then dropping it in the margins because after a hour you find you will never reach the spot but it don't matter because you tryed and it's not cheating.for god's sake just go out catch the fish for yourself not other's and let other's catch them as they want.yes i do own a bait boat no i don't use it everytime i'm fishing hardly ever if i can make the cast then so be it a cast it is but there are time's i use it but that's up to me i fish for myself and really don't care what other's think there is enough backbiting on the bank nowadays with what yer can and can't do.

no !!! ..............lol

[growler]

Originally Posted by The Newbie

The cash will be fine thanks. Not into model boating

From what i've seen your not much into "MODELING" any thing Jay

As for boats i have 2 and i use mine whenever and wherever i am allowed