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Old 17-07-2008, 07:58 PM
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typical disrespectful swines. soap there pre-baited swims bet

just kidding but a very annoying occurence. lack of care or forethought about other anglers and if the shoe would be on the other foot they'd prob go mad. if you see them down there whilst fishing again walk round next to them then fill the next swim in with pellets. as you all may gather some of the things i've heard of or seen done on the bank over this last year locally has pee'd me off no end and going down south has opened my eyes to a better standard of angling etiquette.
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Old 18-07-2008, 12:47 AM
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controversial no doubt but i don't see any benefits to pre baiting it was probably invented by bait companies to sell more bait,watercraft goes out of the window if you have pre-conceptions and bait a swim a couple of days in advance of fishing it imo.With that many anglers baiting with similar baits you might as well turn up and find the fish flick them a stringer, they'll recognise it as food.

i see anglers pre-baiting heavily and they seem to end up moaning that someones jumped in their swim or they are always catching loads of bream.

all your effectively doing is paying a fortune to give yourself a little extra confidence.

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Old 18-07-2008, 11:02 AM
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but i don't see any benefits to pre baiting it was probably invented by bait companies to sell more bait
Pre baiting has gone on for years matey, long before bait company's where about, BB for example goes on about pre baiting swims a lot in his book, and that was back in the 40's - 50's etc.

I've nothing against pre baitin', but Bets scenario is bang out of order. The lads in question should definitely of though twice about baitin' up so close to someone fishin, especially on a little water like TP Idiots
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Old 18-07-2008, 12:58 PM
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don't get me wrong pre baiting has it's place.especially if the lakes not seen much in the way of bait before.

there seems to be a trend for heavy baiting these days perpetuated by the lanes,shelleys etc in the mags

like anything theres a time and place

a lot of anglers just have a routine of chucking bait in an area and fishing it a couple of days later the fish could be at the other end of the lake when they turn up to fish

on one water i fish people seem to think they own the swims if they've put a bit of bait in.

you end up getting abuse for being a peg pirate lol

the lads in the original post just typify modern anglers behaviour
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Old 18-07-2008, 01:33 PM
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Don't often check this forum anymore, might check it more often as people are calling me an idiot!

It was me who was prebaiting the field/alders swim at 9pm on Wednesday. I have been doing this for 12 months. Bet, I am not a new member.

Some people agree and others don't but prebaiting an area that you were't fishing and 40yards round the bay is something that has occured on said water for years. The other angler was probably baiting the boathouse? Has happened to me a lot, even in the next swim, and it doesn't bother me, and I still catch.

In a perfect world TP would be 40 acres and we could all fish in peace, but it ain't and its busier than ever, 7 anglers on a Wednseday!

Correct me if i'm wrong but did you not used to row your baits out from time to time?! Seems very disruptive!

It makes me laugh how as soon as certain people on this forum say something everyone jumps on the bandwagon slating other anglers. Most of these "Gods" break more rules than the rest!!
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Old 18-07-2008, 01:36 PM
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controversial no doubt but i don't see any benefits to pre baiting it was probably invented by bait companies to sell more bait,watercraft goes out of the window if you have pre-conceptions and bait a swim a couple of days in advance of fishing it imo.With that many anglers baiting with similar baits you might as well turn up and find the fish flick them a stringer, they'll recognise it as food.

i see anglers pre-baiting heavily and they seem to end up moaning that someones jumped in their swim or they are always catching loads of bream.

all your effectively doing is paying a fortune to give yourself a little extra confidence.

rant over
To keep this on track do you have any experience of fishing Top Pool?????
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Old 18-07-2008, 02:15 PM
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i'm familiar with top pool.

however the post was a generalism

i'll butt out and leave you too it.
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Old 18-07-2008, 04:28 PM
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In my experience prebaiting is always beneficial you can get fish actively looking for food in an area if you prebait enough.Its also good for the fish IMO

Its just hard lines if someone is in your swim when you turn up!
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Old 18-07-2008, 05:35 PM
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controversial no doubt but i don't see any benefits to pre baiting it was probably invented by bait companies to sell more bait,watercraft goes out of the window if you have pre-conceptions and bait a swim a couple of days in advance of fishing it imo.With that many anglers baiting with similar baits you might as well turn up and find the fish flick them a stringer, they'll recognise it as food.

i see anglers pre-baiting heavily and they seem to end up moaning that someones jumped in their swim or they are always catching loads of bream.

all your effectively doing is paying a fortune to give yourself a little extra confidence.

rant over
thats the whole idea of baiting a couple of swims
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In a perfect world TP would be 40 acres
It ain't, so why treat it like one!

Blatant disregard for other anglers springs to mind! With Top Pool being the sensitive water it is, someone baiting' up 40 yards away from another anglers swim is sure to un nerve any fish in the locality!
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Old 18-07-2008, 07:43 PM
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Correct me if i'm wrong but did you not used to row your baits out from time to time?! Seems very disruptive!
For the record I have never rowed baits out!! and am quite angry to be accused of such
The only time I have been out in the boat was during work parties removing weed and to retrieve Victor rip!
I suggest before you start rumours flying that you get your facts straight.

I assumed you were new as I've never seen you fishing there before,I try to keep myself to myself on there and dont like to disturb others when i'm fishing.

When I turn up at Top Pool I look for the fish before I choose a swim, there were fish in and out the pads throughout the day and if they had moved to another area I would have moved with them. Or am I meant to avoid the alders,point at all costs now incase I get grief for fishing someone elses swim??


I've travelled there to trickle bait in before and left with it because there were other anglers fishing.

At the end of the day its a small lake that stirs up alot of passion in all that fish it, if all the members showed courtesy to each other it would be an even nicer place to fish.

Would it have done you any harm to ask me where I was fishing to and if I minded you putting any bait in...............I think not.
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Old 18-07-2008, 08:01 PM
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To be fair to Bet, i was on the said night with a mate in the woods and we found it very strange that it was allowed to go on whilst we were fishing. Ive prebaited lakes before and done it with the most upmost respect for people fishing at the time. Either by asking them or not baiting up.

But as im new to the water and still getting to know the lake and its goings on's, i'll hold judgement for now.
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Old 18-07-2008, 09:32 PM
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Some people don't mind some people do, i certainly would not have baited up the next peg! I knew full well your rods would be nowhere near where I was putting bait, your initial post said I needed to ask where your rods were?!
Anyway not in to getting in to this crap on a forum. Must not have been you rowing baits out so apologies.
Anyway like I say, it happens a lot on TP, hence 2 people doing it in a night! I'll bear your comments in mind next time bet.

Right, i'm off to bait up
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It ain't, so why treat it like one!

Blatant disregard for other anglers springs to mind! With Top Pool being the sensitive water it is, someone baiting' up 40 yards away from another anglers swim is sure to un nerve any fish in the locality!
Whatever mate, I was flicking a few boilies in 10yards out not spodding 5k of particle out as some people may thimk. 2 carp were happily mooching over towards where I assume Bets right hand rod was as I was leaving anyway!
I understand what Bets saying and as i've said i'll bear it in mind next time, and if our lucks in we may be able to take a photo for eachother on their 1day.
Its everyone else getting there 10p worth in when they don't know the full situation that ****es me off. Strange how nobody ever says it on the bank.
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Would it have done you any harm to ask me where I was fishing to and if I minded you putting any bait in...............I think not.
Nail...head...whack! Irrespective of the what/when/who/why of this particular instance, bait is expensive and gets bandied around with carefree abandon. Manners, on the other hand, cost nothing.

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