Bait Boats or Spodding - Transferred

[Julian Grattidge]

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robnichol
NMFF Regular

What are peoples thoughts on using bait boats instead of spodding?? Personaly i always spod, but just wondered what you lot think.
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Alex
NMFF Regular

Nichol, I'm with you on spodding however, If I had the money I would probably get a boat as it increases your chances, or should I say makes baiting more accurate!
However, I think using a boat is a little to technical, the good old spod does the trick no problems! But I would be interested to no peoples views on the boat? Do you lot think there to expensive? I do £400+

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boxer
NMFF Super Poster

For me its got to be spodding but its down to every individual.
I would not knock bait boats as ive never used one and it seems alot of people slag the people off who use them,but lets remember its modern day carping.
I will go with spodding
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kevw
NMFF Super Poster

I'll stick with the spod, not sure how far I could cast a baitboat.
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doctor46
NMFF Super Poster

Spodding yes. But bait boats for them hard to reach places and when fishing abroad in some cases.
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garethh
NMFF Super Poster

Both.
Sometimes i like to fish with a tight bed of bait (boat) or sometimes i think its more productive to slightly spread the bait.
Also for under bushes etc.
Bait boats can be a pain in the **** in the wrong hands though
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blue
NMFF Regular

Just think, in ten years time it could be the question; Bait-copter or camera equipped bait sub!
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Phil highlander
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think id take the camera mounted on the sub to be honest great idea get on to it !
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Northern_Monkey
NMFF Super Poster

As i don't own a Toyboat and never will, then i'll take the spodding option
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jamesf
NMFF Regular

I'm struggling as it is just to save up enough to get a half decent spod set up! Bait boat is well out of the question!! Plus surely being able to cast accurately is half the skill of fishing?! Or maybe i'm just old fashioned!!
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blue
NMFF Regular

I'm just going to reiterate on whats already been said. I'm kind of for and against them.
Like what garethh said, they can be a pain in the wrong hands. However, when it come to over hanging bushes, far off islands, snags etc, very useful (expensive) pieces of kit.
I don't own one, never will. Cant justify the money for them, someone is getting very rich at carp anglers expense. No surprise there though, its the same with most tackle these days.
Another thing is, i can honestly say I've never been on a water where they've been in use and seen anyone really catch any more carp than us old fashioned buggers with the trusty spod.
I think a lot of it is fashion as well, a lot of us like to have all s****ey new gear on the bank and why not, at the end of the day we're all big boys (and gals ) and boats to a certain degree are big boys toys that come in handy now and again if the hot spot is a pebble at 295yds.
In conclusion, I'm a spod monkey
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paul41
NMFF Regular

i used to do nought but spod or stick baits out but in the last eighteen months i have had a lot of problems with my arm ( doctor recons its related to my fishing )and am now using a bait boat to be honest i wish that i had bought one years ago personaly i think that the boat has improved my catch rate as well as taken alot of the pain out of my fishing.
But like they say each to thier own.
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stig
NMFF Super Poster

Never fish far enough out to need either perhaps why i dont catch many big big carp but im happy Plus i dont fish any waters big enough to need a boat a spod yes occasionally but as i only really fish capes main Fanshawe and very occaisionally Top pool def dont need a boat
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bazauk
NMFF Super Poster

i used to say there cheating like everyone else whil'st i was saving up to get one, since having one i get the looks but how many people have come up and said will you put my bait on that spot for me,which i do with a smile and say there ya go.
wonder how many people would have one really? all's it takes is a bit of saving.....
baz.........
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Northern_Monkey
NMFF Super Poster

I don't think many actually want to own a boat to me, fishing is all about casting acuratly, baiting up well and owning a boat would take the sense of achievement away from me

[Julian Grattidge]

paul41
NMFF Regular

got admit i have fished waters where as soon as you get a spod out of your bag the fish disapear but responded well to bait boats.
at the end of the day i think that it is a case of each to thier own . and as for those that say bait boats are not fishing then what about your alarms i can remember a time when they were not classed as fishing becouse you were not reading a float/quiver tip !
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robnichol
NMFF Regular

Every one's raising good points, but i think i have come to the conclusion that its each to there own. my casting has taken a turn for the worse, as alex will testify, so i am considering getting one, but there is always a place in my bag for the trusty spod
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blue
NMFF Regular

Just out of interest robnichol, what would you do if your casting took a turn for the worse but there was no such thing as *********?
Food for thought maybe..
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paul41
NMFF Regular

Blue i know that your last post was aimed at somebody else but injury or not i can still cast as well now as i could before i owned a boat.(just not as often)
not all waters allow boats and just because i own a boat does'nt mean that i only fish waters that do allow them, just as i suspect do most boat owners so therefor still get my casting practice.
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blue
NMFF Regular

Thats a fair comment paul, and i don't dispute the fact that boats owners don't only fish waters that allow boats. I'm also not saying that people who own boats cant cast as well either, thats not what i was getting at.
My point was that if your struggling with an aspect of your carp fishing (casting in rob's case) then getting a boat isn't necessarily the answer to the problem. It's no good buying a boat to fish at 120 yds because your rods cant get a lead out that far, the chances are that your rod wouldn't cope when you hooked at fish at that distance anyway. If its distance you struggle with etc, you look at mainline diameter, shock leaders, rigs, leads, reels and rods don't you. Or if its accuracy, like casting close to an island, you learn to use the line clip etc. Thats what carp fishing is all about, over coming these problems. As with everything, a little thought and effort will sort things out.
However, if its an injury thats causing the problem with casting, then id probably do the same, get saving and buy a boat myself
I wasn't having a dig at rob at all, i was just coming at it from a different angle.
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robnichol
NMFF Regular

You make a good point blue. think i need to get some practice in. should really invest in better rods and reels instead of a boat
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paul41
NMFF Regular

rob it's a poor workman that blaims his tools!
unless of course you are tring to cast 100+ yds with light carp rods and small reels of course, but practice makes perfect and the the more practice you get the better you get.(in theary that is anway).

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robnichol
NMFF Regular

you haven't seen my rods!! they are poor at best! only on that really does cast with any kind of quality is by old 1.75lb barbel rod!! i understand that you can have the best gear in the world and still be unable to cast, but adequate tackle helps!!
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Bet
NMFF Super Poster

I think boats r a great piece of kit ,I've had one for 4 years and I have no doubt that the presentation and accuracy that it provides has helped me catch more fish,especially when fishing overhangs and snags.I've hardly used it in the last year,as I moved to a smaller water.Boats aren't banned on there but I can wade out a fair way so I prefer to cast instead.The down side for me is all the extra bulk that one adds to your kit especially if your going on a long session and need a few sets of batteries to see you out.Luckily we got ours for a wedding present,instead of having a traditional wedding list we opted for a baitboat fund
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blue
NMFF Regular

Nice one rob, by the sound of it, its not your casting ability, its your rods etc mate, but you know that by the look of it. You'll probably find your more than a competent caster, its just your rods holding you back.
For the money you'd spend on a boat, you could more than equip yourself with a set of decent rods and reels these days. And the sense of achievement you get at launching that lead to long off feeding area's in your lake would far out way doing it with a boat!
The more you learn to balance your tackle, the better you'll get as well. Practice your stance when casting, feel the compression point of your rod, and it'll almost become an extension of your arm, like learning to throw well.
Fair play for admitting it's probably your rods as well, you could have easily told me to mind my own and sod off, glad you thought about it a bit mate.
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Sam
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that is very true mate . as you can buy some decent stuff eg rods and reels for the price of a boat. and the rods and reels will help you to land more fish to.
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paul41
NMFF Regular

There always seems to be good deals on rod and reels these days maybe you should get yourself some new ones matey . i have to admit you do seem to be a little under gunned.
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robnichol
NMFF Regular

Got some new rods in the pipeline. Thanks for all your veiws, they have been very usefull
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sam3317
NMFF Newcomer

To me a bait boat is just something else to carry an something that is quite heavy at that. Most people who i see using them tend to over use them quite a lot especially in the winter when them long blank sessions can start to wear you down, people seem to use them as some kind of boredom relief.
To be honest I think they are really bad. If you're just getting in to carp fishing it's oh so easy to get frustrated learning to cast properly an accurately. Consequently some people will go down the bait boat route thus they never learn this most fundamental of fishing skills. Surely this can only be a bad thing for the future of fishing. In ten years time will we see fishermen who are totally reliant on gadgets to pursue their sport? Its a definite possibility. I'm sure that the tackle companies would love it though.
I've only ever used one once in France and after the first couple of tries it quickly became surplus to requirements. I must say though that after a few days we started using it to transport beer an grub across the lake a job in which it thoroughly excelled.
If I had £600 quid to spend on something, my cash would be going on one of them Power Porters. A barrow with an engine now that is a good idea for a lazy ******* like myself.
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tuffty
NMFF Newcomer

Definitely horses for courses. I am sort of with the for and against guys.
If you fish a smallish lake or pool, I don`t think you need one. The carp should be able to go and rest up in safe (un-cast-able) areas, without being pestered.
If however you have gone all the way to France and are on a large lake, the fish are at long range, and the wind is against you, after all the cash you have laid out to get there, a bait boat or even rowing boat may not seem like a bad idea.
We don`t own one, wish we did sometimes though as Mrs T can only spod at about 80yds max, then it is double spodding for me I am afraid.

[Callum91]

Spod!