Shockleaders

[davedavedave]

Alright Guys,
Looking for some advice on shockleaders.

Just got some new reels with braid on them and want to use a shock leader - what would you use?

Also and good leaders for my Spod rod (Mono on reel) and marker Rod (Braid on reel) that you could recommend.

cheers
Dave

[carpking]

To be honest mate take the braid off your main reels and get 12lb pro gold teamed with a Diawa tournenent or esp shock leader on it, tie it on with a leader knot and you will have no probs with it

[skilledhandz]

Originally Posted by davedavedave

Alright Guys,
Looking for some advice on shockleaders.

Just got some new reels with braid on them and want to use a shock leader - what would you use?

Also and good leaders for my Spod rod (Mono on reel) and marker Rod (Braid on reel) that you could recommend.

cheers
Dave

Im just wondering why you want a shock leader coupled upto the braid?

[Joephus]

Why would you need shockleaders with braid 10lb mono thickness braid should 30lb test plus.

[Chesh]

interestig thoughts!

mono leader on braid? i havent heard of that one before? braid leader on mono yes...

there wouldnt be any need for a mono leader when using 30lb power pro... i certianly havent needed it and thats chucking a whacking great big korda spod full of particle out 70 yards

why do you need a shockleader?

recomendations? Power Pro all the way!

[skilledhandz]

Im trying to establish wether the braid is for fishing or spodding.Mono to braid is not uncommon as it give a little elasticity to combat the braids zero stretch.

[davedavedave]

using 20lb braid on fishing reels, want some mono to give some stretch.

[skilledhandz]

Some anglers dont like to fish straight through with braid incase of causing a hook pull so a length of mono can be attached to give a little stretch.A good mono from years back was Maxima Chameleon that had tons of stretch and you can still buy it.You can buy a braided shock leader (korda Arma) but that wont really help so what you want is either a Drennan fluro in 40 pound or an ESP tapered leader from 15-40.(3 in a packet for £5).A rule of thumb is the leader strength should be approx twice the line strength.

[carpking]

Its kinda scrapin the point of braid tho aint it thats why people spool up for the zero stretch adding a mono leader to give it some is pointless and if it is to avoid hookpulls under the tip or when striking then thats daft play em with more caution.are you fishing to snags? Or open water?

[skilledhandz]

Originally Posted by carpking

Its kinda scrapin the point of braid tho aint it thats why people spool up for the zero stretch adding a mono leader to give it some is pointless and if it is to avoid hookpulls under the tip or when striking then thats daft play em with more caution.are you fishing to snags? Or open water?

Ye i agree.

[blackswan-clothing]

I use 30lb whiplash braid as mainline with a 14ft 20lb x-line leader and its the nuts of a combo.

Why?????????

1. the xline sits RIGHT on the bottom & unlike braid can sit up in the water, plus the xline is near invisable.

2. when going for the 200 yard chuck i fill safer knowing that my finger is on the x-line & not the finger cutting braid, yes I use a finger stool.

3. less stretch in the x-line & the sport playing a lump is pace marker material

4. NEVER NEVER strike like your sea fishing lol, just pick up the rod and use the clutch or backwind, if snag fishing use 4ft of leadcore & NO leader, but make sure your hooklength is no higher than 12lb,

[carpking]

Blackswan you can cast 200 yd ok but what the **** are you goin on bout if your snag fishing dont use anything above 12lb hooklength yet you use leadcore to what NOT LET THE LINE SNAP, if you fish safetly in the snags anything is alright in snags without a leadcore leader, if you cant dont fish em simple as. Oh hang on and 30lb whiplash as mainline dear oh dear where do ya fish the north sea.

[blackswan-clothing]

Okkkayyyyyyyyy we are talking about braid here & fishing circumstances change from fishing the norm with mono.

fishing to snags straight through with braid does not help your presentation at the end of your line as it stands out like a ugly bar maid tied on to your swivel, so using leadcore or tubing hides the braid, plus the leadcore or tubing protect the fish from being cutt in half by the braid.

Using leaders while fishing to snags with braid or mono in my eyes is a no no as we all know knots can come undone, especially when we all give it the heavy rod bend so not to let the fish get in the snags, so 14ft etc of leader hanging out a carps mouth is not good.

Hang on but your using leadcore I hear you say & thats a short leader? yes 4ft & not 14ft if the knot goes, plus it helps with sitting everything on the botton & hides the blatant braid, thats why I say dont use anything above 12lb as a hooklength when using braid & leadcore, because if the carp gets snaged it has a good chance of snapping off.

If im fishing mono as my mainline to snags it would be straight through 12 or 15lb with 10lb hook length.

I fish very large southern pits & get the chance to use rowing boats, the amount of dead fish around snags is unreal & its ALL caused by anglers using heavy line or heavy hooklengths and the carp have no chance of getting off.

So why 30lb braid? well I cast long distances & as you know it helps having a low diameter line to cast far, mine is like 6-8lb mono so its great, if I went lower to 15 or 20lb braid the abrasion would be crap. Plus I love the sport of using braid.

[daveabbott]

Originally Posted by blackswan-clothing

Okkkayyyyyyyyy we are talking about braid here & fishing circumstances change from fishing the norm with mono.

fishing to snags straight through with braid does not help your presentation at the end of your line as it stands out like a ugly bar maid tied on to your swivel, so using leadcore or tubing hides the braid, plus the leadcore or tubing protect the fish from being cutt in half by the braid.

Using leaders while fishing to snags with braid or mono in my eyes is a no no as we all know knots can come undone, especially when we all give it the heavy rod bend so not to let the fish get in the snags, so 14ft etc of leader hanging out a carps mouth is not good.

Hang on but your using leadcore I hear you say & thats a short leader? yes 4ft & not 14ft if the knot goes, plus it helps with sitting everything on the botton & hides the blatant braid, thats why I say dont use anything above 12lb as a hooklength when using braid & leadcore, because if the carp gets snaged it has a good chance of snapping off.

If im fishing mono as my mainline to snags it would be straight through 12 or 15lb with 10lb hook length.

I fish very large southern pits & get the chance to use rowing boats, the amount of dead fish around snags is unreal & its ALL caused by anglers using heavy line or heavy hooklengths and the carp have no chance of getting off.

So why 30lb braid? well I cast long distances & as you know it helps having a low diameter line to cast far, mine is like 6-8lb mono so its great, if I went lower to 15 or 20lb braid the abrasion would be crap. Plus I love the sport of using braid.

I think that answers peoples questions to why on most good lakes braid is banned

If its not used correctly it can harm the fish

I like the sound of that as a combo though and if i was allowed and needed the distance i would swap over as its alot safer than just using braid straight through

[skilledhandz]

On the subject of snags and set ups while i was fishing Sky lakes recently the owner put us on to the Rigmarole lead clips.Now these are the daddy of all clips in snags and weed because the lead doesnt come off.Yes your hearing that correctly what happens is upon contact with weed or snags the swivel pulls out the clip and the whole clip and lead is deposited.These are the best ive ever used and you dont loose any on the cast only in a snag or weed.