Leadcore saint or sin

[carpking]

I have used it in the past and once or twice this year but after thinking about what ive seen in the past have removed it, i now buy it for the lead inner core to wrap around my mainline or hooklink material to sink it as its cheaper then the normal lead wire that you can buy.
Now i picked up a copy of carpology in the paper shop when i was getting some bacon and dave moore is in it and one of the subtitles is 'Leadcore: Carp killer' it is quite a contraversial question and one that will come with the usual response 'If used correctly its safe'. But what happens if you crack off and it is being used correctly the rig is sat there just waiting for something to pick it up aint it? Is it really safe for using in carp fishing? many big named waters dont seem to think so, what are your thoughts andy

[Dj13]

For once we may agree on something andy. Bout time you said something sensible. Also ask the question of kordas safety clips which dont eject the leads.wtf!

[rogue trader]

i think this is another north south divide thing , ever noticed it it banned almost everywhere down south? not really frowned upon up north though is it!

only ever used it for helicopter rigs and always made sure the bore of the bead is more than wide enough to clear the loop at the end .

[carpking]

I have only been using clips for the past year due to the weed on the park before that only ever used inlines but the, best ones i have found are either armalead lockjaw clips and the esp leadclip kits, you get everything you need for a fraction of the price and the tailrubbers have a notch cut out to allow the lead to come of easier

[seanp07]

I agree with you on the lead clip systems. I try using leadcore as safely as possible eg using running rigs and barbless hooks

[carp junkie]

most people miss the point as to why leadcore can be dangerous its not so much the components we use but the leadcore itself if you kink it on itself let alone a branch or something it locks up, so realistically no rig is 100% safe using leadcore so for this reason i prefer not to use it on snaggy waters anymore

[carpking]

Originally Posted by rogue trader

i think this is another north south divide thing , ever noticed it it banned almost everywhere down south? not really frowned upon up north though is it!

There are waters and clubs up north that have banned its usage, wyreside have a total ban on it,barnsley and district anglers have banned it since dave moore had to release a fish teathered up,as he states in his writtings, the fella who owns roman lakes told me he was going to ban it since i retrieved a death rig and told him what a bad rig could do, weather or not he imposed it is another story (lazy bugger dont move unless he is in his dump truck). Not sure where else has a ban tho.


only ever used it for helicopter rigs and always made sure the bore of the bead is more than wide enough to clear the loop at the end .

I can see what you are saying in reality this is a safe way of using leadcore.Im not picking at bones but if it can clear the loop on the mainline end what stops your rig flying back behind the leadcore on the cast is it the tension on the core outer from the bead? If this is what holds everything in place what happens if you crack off a fish picks it up travels 5ft past an unseen snag and tangles up at the loop end of the core? i know these are all ifs and buts, but it could happen in an everyday fishing situation.

[rogue trader]

the snag sitiuation is about a million to one chance the loop is tiny ,ive have enough trouble getting line through it lol,the bead is held in place by a small sleeve on the lead core but never to tight as this would create a death rig.

[kermit]

My opinion:

Leadcore helicopter rigs, if used correctly, are acceptable. In the event of a snapped mainline, the fish should end up towing around nothing other than the hooklength.

Leadcore with lead clips or running rigs is utterly unacceptable. In the event of mainline breakage, the fish will be left towing around (at best) 4 feet of leadcore. At worst (with lead clips that don't slide overthe loop efficiently) a fish could be left towing a whole lot more.

Mike.

[rogue trader]

Originally Posted by kermit

My opinion:

Leadcore helicopter rigs, if used correctly, are acceptable. In the event of a snapped mainline, the fish should end up towing around nothing other than the hooklength.
i agree with rogue trader, please stop editing his posts as his wife has just shown him how its done
Leadcore with lead clips or running rigs is utterly unacceptable. In the event of mainline breakage, the fish will be left towing around (at best) 4 feet of leadcore. At worst (with lead clips that don't slide overthe loop efficiently) a fish could be left towing a whole lot more.

Mike.

cheers

[kermit]

Originally Posted by rogue trader

the snag sitiuation is about a million to one chance the loop is tiny ,ive have enough trouble getting line through it lol,the bead is held in place by a small sleeve on the lead core but never to tight as this would create a death rig. More important than this - I think Kermit is brilliant. I'm going to buy the guy a crate of beer and a box of muffins.

Oooh - that's nice

[rogue trader]

Originally Posted by kermit

Oooh - that's nice

lol

[edgeog]

it's just as easy to make a killer rig with tubing and leadclips Earlier this year a guy asked me for some advice about his set up.He'd followed the instructions on the packet (which weren't that good) but had jammed the wrong sized swivel in the clip and pushed the tail rubber on as far as it would go and this lot was fitted with to a shock leader.Then he showed me his ready made leadcore kit which all ready had a swivel on one end and he had fitted a lead to the other end.I think the tackle manufacturers should put better instructions in the kits.

[skilledhandz]

I dont like this stuff at all as its too easy for inexperienced lads to set it up incorrectly.If its being used with lead clips then the lead has to eject not the swivel come out BUT that will only work with snag fishing and what happens on a crack off no were near a snag,the fish will be left towing the lot.If the swivel comes out the spliced loop is unlikley to pass through the rubber on the clip even if its cut back.I have used it fishing inline leads with no inner rubber in the lead its perfectly safe but the lead has to be tied to the swivel with PVA in order to cast or the lot in a PVA bag.Its safe enough with a chod rig if set up properly.I would have no problem seeing it banned as the weighted tubing does a similar job and is far safer.

[richk]

In the proper hands and used correctly I think its fine..the problems start when the numptys start using it..just like everything else..Chaos...