Baitboat Poll - The Conclusion

[The Newbie]

If this was the correct result then "GAWD ELP US" I am astounded by the amount of anglers who go for the skill substitute/shorcut rather than cutting your teeth/fingers/hands/arms. I bet that in the main the ones who use them have never climbed throught the ranks from bit bashing on ponds/canals/rivers and this is why they feel the need for a radio controlled (not human) assistant. It is a shame that our sport has succumbed to the instant lifstyle that man has embraced over the past 20 years.

What next a grow your own 30lb carp kit!

If this poll is correct it is a sad day in the short history of carp fishing...yes Fishing with a rod and line, you know.

When a "BOATIE" boats his bait out does he say "I saw a fish crash and steered a bait onto its head"

Kin Knoddies!

[Boilie Stop]

Originally Posted by The Newbie

If this was the correct result then "GAWD ELP US" I am astounded by the amount of anglers who go for the skill substitute/shorcut rather than cutting your teeth/fingers/hands/arms. I bet that in the main the ones who use them have never climbed throught the ranks from bit bashing on ponds/canals/rivers and this is why they feel the need for a radio controlled (not human) assistant. It is a shame that our sport has succumbed to the instant lifstyle that man has embraced over the past 20 years.

What next a grow your own 30lb carp kit!

If this poll is correct it is a sad day in the short history of carp fishing...yes Fishing with a rod and line, you know.

When a "BOATIE" boats his bait out does he say "I saw a fish crash and steered a bait onto its head"

Kin Knoddies!

Probably get worse 'J'...Im surprised the amount of people that are now using them at such short range 50-70 yards..the market of cheap bait boats has arrived making it more affordable..for these people to put baits in area's that can be potentially dangerous to the fish if hooked.!!
I also think that there is a few people that would rather keep the use of one on the quiet because of the general feeling.!!!

[seanp07]

I think its a shame people feel the need to use them everytime they go out fishing. I would rather cast anyday.

[skilledhandz]

Newbie, i find your views very sweeping and blinkered and to assume that anglers who use boats are noddies shows what a narrow minded person you are.You always asume that anglers using boats cant cast and havent paid there dues in the past.There will be anglers who have never used a boat who cant cast to save there lives and never will be able to.There will be guys who use boats who can cast better than you.Why are you trying to force your blinkered views on others?If you dont want to use a boat then dont use one but as ive posted before there will always be times when one is a better/safer option than casting.There here to stay and a useful part of anyones kit,get used to it and move on.

[The Newbie]

Originally Posted by skilledhandz

Newbie, i find your views very sweeping and blinkered and to assume that anglers who use boats are noddies shows what a narrow minded person you are.You always asume that anglers using boats cant cast and havent paid there dues in the past.There will be anglers who have never used a boat who cant cast to save there lives and never will be able to.There will be guys who use boats who can cast better than you.Why are you trying to force your blinkered views on others?If you dont want to use a boat then dont use one but as ive posted before there will always be times when one is a better/safer option than casting.There here to stay and a useful part of anyones kit,get used to it and move on.

I did say "I bet that in the main the ones who use them" which is not not all the anglers. If there are anglers who can't cast is like saying "I will never learn to swim/ride a bike etc....you practice!!! You know, put in the effort to learn...geez thats like a dart player who can't throw...LEARN!!! it aint rocket science. Fact is that most boat users or navigators can't cast because they are new to angling and the boat eliminates the need to put in the effort and time to hone which I believe is a basic skill required to angle.

You always jump on MY opinion yes MINE and to say that I am forcing it onto others is total b0ll0cks. I am right to assume this because I have seen it for the past ten years and know that they are noddies by their actions and how they deploy the darn thing.

If my views are blinkered how come all the top fisheries in the UK don't allow them?

Skilledhandz.....is that fishing wise or playstation controller wise?

[Bl4cky]

i use one and if someone wants to call me a noddy then go ahead,i fish hard waters with or without a boat and have had a degree of success the past couple of seasons. it's a bit predjudice to start giving grief to people who use them when people have never seen these anglers fishing. as i've said before, they've got a bad name by a few who don't respect there surroundings and other anglers but it don't take a bait boat to make someone a bad angler. Also the view where you say all the top fisheries have banned them is complete tosh, look at the cemex waters such as the carp park. you can pay extra for a bait boat card on there and after mr hearn used his on there virtually everyone's using one and i'd rate that as the most famous water in the country at the mo.

The thing that has really bugged me this season, and this ain't a dig at yourself mate but a general view, is the fact that in the north of england we take too much time to slate others and the way they angle rather then concentrating on our own fishing. down south the view is a lot more relaxed to other peoples fishing whilst up here we kick off and moan about the daftest things which are petty in the least. i think we all need to chill out and light a joss stick and spread a little love instead of constantly trying to get each others backs up all the time as it's starting to grow tiresome from where i'm sitting.

[The Newbie]

Originally Posted by Bl4cky

i use one and if someone wants to call me a noddy then go ahead,i fish hard waters with or without a boat and have had a degree of success the past couple of seasons. it's a bit predjudice to start giving grief to people who use them when people have never seen these anglers fishing. as i've said before, they've got a bad name by a few who don't respect there surroundings and other anglers but it don't take a bait boat to make someone a bad angler. Also the view where you say all the top fisheries have banned them is complete tosh, look at the cemex waters such as the carp park. you can pay extra for a bait boat card on there and after mr hearn used his on there virtually everyone's using one and i'd rate that as the most famous water in the country at the mo.

The thing that has really bugged me this season, and this ain't a dig at yourself mate but a general view, is the fact that in the north of england we take too much time to slate others and the way they angle rather then concentrating on our own fishing. down south the view is a lot more relaxed to other peoples fishing whilst up here we kick off and moan about the daftest things which are petty in the least. i think we all need to chill out and light a joss stick and spread a little love instead of constantly trying to get each others backs up all the time as it's starting to grow tiresome from where i'm sitting.

NODDY!!!

[Bl4cky]

u bugger

[The Newbie]

You asked me 2 I can say that I never ever say ALL users as it would be stupid to call TH a noddy, a stoner yes but not a noddy!

Originally Posted by Finbar

Well they were in the majority at 11.20 last night, 7.30 am and suddenly there are considerably more saying yes
Not content with cheating on the lake someone feels the need to cheat the poll
Well done whoever, the fact that eejiots use model boats for fishing has never been more reinforced....

Originally Posted by Stig

I must presume that you didn't know that we let Fuddlepuck model boat club use the site on a fridaynight/early saturday morning ..lol

As put on the poll thread. Fixed results I reckon. I'm not having it that the vote swung so dramatically in the space of 8 hours overnight, it just didnt happen...
Model boats have no place in angling, they belong in the model boat clubs and thats the end of it.

Model boats are about as OK as a Premier League player lining up his free kick with a mechanical free kick machine, or a darts player with his mechanical dart thrower or that tennis bloke Murray firing his serve with the aid of a mechanical ball thrower.
Model boats in angling is wrong just the same as all the above examples are and thats a fact that cannot be changed.

As Jay has already said how come top carp waters/clubs/syndis dont allow their use. Because they are not angling thats why.
And dont anyone kid yourself about the Southern way being more relaxed. If you asked some proper Southern carp anglers their opinion they'd just say model boaters are a bunch of c****!! I know that to be a fact as well because i've asked some of them. If still in doubt try posting the same question on a more 'carpy' website and see the tirade of abuse you get.
As for boats on the Car Park lake, the lads doing it should be bloody ashamed thats all can say...

[bobbins]

Originally Posted by Bl4cky

i use one and if someone wants to call me a noddy then go ahead,i fish hard waters with or without a boat and have had a degree of success the past couple of seasons. it's a bit predjudice to start giving grief to people who use them when people have never seen these anglers fishing. as i've said before, they've got a bad name by a few who don't respect there surroundings and other anglers but it don't take a bait boat to make someone a bad angler. Also the view where you say all the top fisheries have banned them is complete tosh, look at the cemex waters such as the carp park. you can pay extra for a bait boat card on there and after mr hearn used his on there virtually everyone's using one and i'd rate that as the most famous water in the country at the mo.

The thing that has really bugged me this season, and this ain't a dig at yourself mate but a general view, is the fact that in the north of england we take too much time to slate others and the way they angle rather then concentrating on our own fishing. down south the view is a lot more relaxed to other peoples fishing whilst up here we kick off and moan about the daftest things which are petty in the least. i think we all need to chill out and light a joss stick and spread a little love instead of constantly trying to get each others backs up all the time as it's starting to grow tiresome from where i'm sitting.

Maybe that would sugest they are doing it for financial reasons alone !!!!

[richk]

I am afraid Guys its called progress the same as when we moved over from Heron Bite alarms to the Txi,s and receivers! Used correctly I see no problem with them at all I think its some of the Anglers who use them that cause the problems ie..Crossing other Anglers, Fishing out of Bounds areas and Right up to or under snags....And yes before you ask I do have one and I also have a Dinghy, Spod Rod and Marker Rod.

Originally Posted by richk

I am afraid Guys its called progress the same as when we moved over from Heron Bite alarms to the Txi,s and receivers! Used correctly I see no problem with them at all I think its some of the Anglers who use them that cause the problems ie..Crossing other Anglers, Fishing out of Bounds areas and Right up to or under snags....And yes before you ask I do have one and I also have a Dinghy, Spod Rod and Marker Rod.

What a load of old tosh A Heron buzzer is just the same as a Txi just not quite as efficient so you can bin that silly statement for a start.
Its not progress at all its doing things a totally different way to the traditional correct way.
By your rules the analogy of a footie player wheeling his free kick taking machine onto the pitch would be progress then would it?? Erm no, that would be cheating, bad sportsmanship, scullduggery, riot causing, world ending!!
You didnt have to mention that you owned a miniature General Belgrano Rich, i'd already guessed

[bobbins]

It would be a change for the Pro boat users to use the baiting patterns ie tight baiting at range which is imposible otherwise as an escuse for using them but they dont so it leads me to the conclusion half of them dont know how to use the tool in the first place.

[davidg]

I don't have a bait boat and have no intention of using one, however the boat is just a tool - the problem is the tools that use them. In the correct hands the are no different then many recent advances. A earlier comment was made re TXi's. As an alarm they are no different than the Heron in principle, but add a wireless receiver and some "tool" can be 50yrd away from their rods!!. At the end of the day there will always be those who hold firm opinions - long may it continue, otherwise it would be back to free lined worm as the only method