Blowback ring or silicon tube

[ICAP]

Originally Posted by Deano

you'd be surprised....ALL rigs get done all the time...

Ahhhh, thats why i catch balls all! im the one getting done all the time!

[Callum91]

Went through a stage of using both, came to the conclusion i lost more fish on the "blowback style" rig, although i dont agree witht the idea of the blowback i just used the rig ring when i was hooking small bags to i didnt move the silicone on the hook. Now i purely use silicon and slide small bags down my hooklink if nececary

[Bl4cky]

silicone all the way with mugga hooks and shrink tube on the eye but kicked out in a slightly different less aggresive way than you see in the mags. peice of piddle to tie and served me well over last 12 months

[inny]

It makes sense to me to use the silicon when fishing bottom baits and the rig ring when fishing pop-ups. The pop-up will then ensure that the rig ring stays in the correct positon the majority of the time even if the fish have been having a go.

[Hotshot]

Using blow back rigs in conjunction with pop-ups is entirely different than using the blow back rigs with bottom baits. The original idea of a blow back rig was to use a drennan ring.
With pop-ups because of the bouyancy, if the bait is picked up, ejected and the ring blown down the shank, the pop-up will usualy (depending on hook pattern) rise back up the shank and "reset" itself. With bottom baits and a drennan ring, it cannot reset itself after an ejection (by any species, roach, bream .....) adn could lie on the bottom with the ring at the top of the hook near the eye, which would not allow the rig to work at its best, as the hook could go in eye first. So in the case of bottom baits I would say it is best to use silicon, and rings for pop-ups.

[Iain Macmillan]

100% correct there Hotshot. I dont use pop ups hardly at all, but if i do, i'll always use a ring for the exact reasons you mentioned mate. Nearly all of my fishing is done with bottom baits, or a bottom bait tipped with a bit of corn, the silicone is fine for this sort of presentation.
Since we started testing the kurved hooks, the silicone is placed only about 2-3 mil from the bottom of the knot, what i'm after with this style of hook is for it to be sitting at a really aggresive angle, so once it's inside the fishes mouth, it's going to nail it!! When using this style of hook, the silicone is really only there to neaten up the presenation, and stop the hair from twisting round the hook on the cast, what i'm relying on is the aggresive kurve of the hook to catch me the carp.

Hope that helps, but as always it's all down to what works for one will differ for the other.

[inny]

Originally Posted by Hotshot

Using blow back rigs in conjunction with pop-ups is entirely different than using the blow back rigs with bottom baits. The original idea of a blow back rig was to use a drennan ring.
With pop-ups because of the bouyancy, if the bait is picked up, ejected and the ring blown down the shank, the pop-up will usualy (depending on hook pattern) rise back up the shank and "reset" itself. With bottom baits and a drennan ring, it cannot reset itself after an ejection (by any species, roach, bream .....) adn could lie on the bottom with the ring at the top of the hook near the eye, which would not allow the rig to work at its best, as the hook could go in eye first. So in the case of bottom baits I would say it is best to use silicon, and rings for pop-ups.

I was trying to say that but I am a man of few words!!

Hi Maccy.... hope you are well.

[StokeBloke]

I've found a bit of success lately after a dry spell by using the KD rig (Kenny Dorset) that Ali Hamidi has written about a few times lately.Using a Mugga or Korda Kurv hook take a knotless knot and make the usual 6-8 turns,then pull the hair aside and make a further 4 or 5 turns before threading your hooklink back through the eye of the hook,the hair comes off the hook at 90 degrees,,no silicone,no ring.This rig doesnt look right,and any tarts out there won't like it but its worked for me.Must add the hookbait has to be semi buoyant,a wafter,a bottom bait with a cork insert or a pop up with a shot on the hair.