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Old 18-07-2008, 03:53 PM
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what would you change to if nothing is 100% safe
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Old 18-07-2008, 04:00 PM
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what would you change to if nothing is 100% safe
I know where you are coming from mate nothing can be deemed 100% safe even mono straight through BUT after thinking about I think leadcore and leaders are more risky compared to mono unless using a helicopter type setup.

Its a tricky issue but one worth thinking about, there was more than one person on the other forum that had witnessed problems with leadcore and setups other than the heli
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Old 18-07-2008, 04:04 PM
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stop using it then


barbed or barbless
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Old 18-07-2008, 04:14 PM
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I might stop using it, just would like more opinions and maybe even stories of teathered fish etc etc.I have had 2 mainline breakages in the last few years using leadcore and leadclips BUT the fish have got rid of the leader and rigs pretty quick as I used to see all of these fish on a regular basis and none were caught with anything attached and none have gone missing. I love leadcore TBH as I like its abrasion resistance and how it hugs the bottom but if I had heard more tales about fish being teathered due its usage it might make my decision easier but it seems many people dont want to post on this thread

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Old 18-07-2008, 04:28 PM
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gettin the feelin your gettin off on hearing about tetherd fish deano.............only jokin

people not replying coz they know its a sensitive subject that will not be resolved ,as it is each to their own, just stop using it if thats how you feel about it,go back to tubing,but hang on ,if you cracked off and the line coiled up it wouldn't pass through the tubing would it,??? ditch that idea and go for no tubing,mainline all the way through.........oooooops cant do that either,it might lift scales off the fish

you decide deano........ are any that safe to be used at all.....
we could all hang our rods up and not bother ,couldn't we
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Old 18-07-2008, 04:32 PM
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I just think like you say many people havent bothered replying as it is a sensitive issue, 390 views and only a handful of people detailing what they use and how.

Like you say mainline can cause problems on a break off so like you say its probably one of those issues that can go round and round forever
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dont use leadcore its BANNED on the lakes i fish. ESP Anchor Rig tubing for me.
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dont use leadcore its BANNED on the lakes i fish. ESP Anchor Rig tubing for me.
be careful your line doesn't coil up behind the tubing if you have a crack off
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only crack offs when im fishing is when the bivvy door is shut and the dvd player is on................................................ .........
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Was almost common practice not too long ago to have a hooklink of a lower breaking strain than the mainline so that this would be the first to snap. How many people do that nowadays

I know that I don't as most hybrid braids are 15-25lb, stiff nylon rigs 15lb or above, chod rigs tied with 20lb amnesia. Shock leaders and leadcore are usually 25lb-45lb, if a fish gets left with a rig and leader nowadays its likely to need a tractor to pull it free.
Personally don't use leadcore and prefer tubing with a blob of putty on the end, doesnt look too much different on the lake bottom and needs only one knot, which is usually the weakest point and is what tends to give when I have had to pull for a break. Tend to use either lead clips or running leads, sometimes in-line so is always the chance a fish could be left trailing a rig and length of mainline if I break.

You can only minimise the risk by fishing sensibly and making sure the lead can detach itself, nothing will be 100% safe.
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You can only minimise the risk by fishing sensibly and making sure the lead can detach itself, nothing will be 100% safe.

took the words out of my mouth. take the scenario you've got in front of you and apply common sense in the way you fish and as kev says minimise the risks to the fish.for example, if your fishing near snags with an inline lead and 6ft of leadcore with 10lb line you need to take a look at what your doing. taking a few moments to think what your doing and having the right set up in the right scenario shouldn't only be applied to trying to hook the fish, but what will happen if you hook one.
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Not sure if they still sell them or even make them but Armaled used to have a leadcore leader which was, barring the looped ends, completely encased in some form of shrink tubing-a good idea IMO as it acts like a leadcore leader but hasn't the risk of the lead snapping inside and popping through the braid outer causing a jamming effect on run rings etc, as well as reducing the possibility of it twisting up on itself.

Another happy factor was that from more than five fee away it looked just like normal tubing, great for those venues that ban leadcore....

Seriously though,if you trawl through some electrical shops you will find long lengths of shrink tube-you could always put this around your leaders to 'safen' them up. Or, get real ingenious and shrink various lengths of different coloured korda tubing along the leader to give that 'camo' finish...very craffffffffftyyyyyyyyyy......
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