Here's a post of mine from anothr forum.
May give you some ideas:
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Plenty of Ingredients to go into Groundbaits, some can be used neat, others as a Bulk Ingredients to make it go further.
As well as Groundbait mixes available from the Tackle Shops here are some ingredients.
Vitalin, is a complete Groundbait in its own right, can be used for Method Mixes mixed fairly stiff or go in spod mixes when used wet.
To prepare you can pour boiling water over the top the night before you fishing, then simply turn up with it on the Bank. You can pour PREPARED Particles into Vitalin and use that as they are. Or Vitalin can simply have water added at the Lake to put straight out. It can be mixed really wet to be a Liquid spod mix, using loads of water, or adding only just enough Water to dampen it down.
Ground Pellets, which if boiling water is poured over can be used as a method mix as well. Or mix in with your Groundbait.
Bread crumb, white or brown, can be used neat, or to bulk up any mix you make.
Crushed Hemp. A 25kilogramme bag can be purchased from Animal Feed Suppliers for about £25, compared to the £3ish for a 500gram bag.
Other ingredients that can go into Groundbait, Tuna in Oil/Spring water, Base Mix, various dry, or tinned dog and cat foods.
A good groundbait then could be Vitalin, Particles, Ground Pellets, Tuna, maggots and Bread crumb.
Beware if you put live maggots in groundbait and ball them in the wriggling maggots often break up the Ball in mid air
Here are also few specials that occasionally go in my Groundbaits, base mixes and Spod mixes.
Have a little look at this lot:
Fish and Fins, UK - terrapin and turtle food uk
Many are available from Seapets, Pets at Home or other pet stores.
Sera Raffy, Gammarus, Turtle treat, and the Can O' bits. I get a small container full and just tip it into my Spod or Groundbait mix. Did the same into Base mixes.
Also try Mealworms, live or dead, Animal Feed Suppliers.
Beware if you try it some do float, so may need soaking before use, by preparing groundbait or spod mix the day before you use it they will sink.
Spod Mixes can be a mix of Particles, Pellets etc, they can be as dry or as wet as you want. The only limit is your imagination and what the fish accept wherever you are.
When It comes to Fishing then there are loads of options and no Rights or Wrongs.
My Favourite Spod Mix is Pigeon Conditioner and Hemp.
Thats not to say I use just Pigeon Conditioner and Hemp. I may add in Tares, Sweetcorn, Maize, Maples, Tigers whole or Crushed, Crushed Peanuts, Pellets, Vitalin, other groundbaits.
Another Member, Grego was using this:
sloppy mix of marine halibut and black amino swim stim groundbait, topped up with sweetcorn, maize, hemp, tares, partiblend, halibut and coarse pellets, broken boilies, whole boilies, a few table spoons of syrup per bucket, a fair bit of tiger nut extract, 250ml bait-tech pineapple CSL.
There are simply so many different types of Particles available and all will work or compliment each other if they have not been used before or the Carp are not used to them.
In fact in most cases even if Carp have seen them before, then they may not be scared of them as they nearly always eat so much before they get hooked that they can't identify whether they were caught on a Boilie or what Particle they were actually hooked on.
Anyone else have any special that they want to put up then add them to the thread.
Lovely Groundbait for you, very easy to prepare. The ingredients don't cost a bomb and are available from Animal Feed Suppliers.
Vitalin
Crushed Hemp
Molassed Rabbit Mix
Layers Pellets/Mash
After mixing this little lot together in a bucket I pour on some Neat Molasses and stir. I would suggest a Bank-stick rather than hands as the Molasses will stick and stain your hands.
Then I pour Boiling Water over the top and again stir well and Leave overnight ready for the next day. If you need to add a little water then its easy enough at the lake. Or if it is a little wet for you then add some Breadcrumb or other Groundbait. It can be used almost straight away though
This Groundbait can be mixed wet for Spod work or dry enough so that it is really stiff for balling in.
Vitalin as it comes is quite large particles and lumps, if you want it finer stick it into a grinder to grind it down to really fine particles.
You can use other liquids either as they are or as a combination as well:
Nutramino, Multimino, CSL Liquid, Vegetable oils (try to limit the oils).
Another ingredient that can be put into Wet or Dry Spod Mixes, mixed with Pellets in PVA Bags or spodded in neat is Boilie Crumb
Easy enough to prepare, get some boilies, and then simply put them through the grinder.
Don't get them too fine and end up with just dust (although that may work) but if you can end up with a mix of sizes of pieces, from dust up to chunks you have a great way to put some attraction into the lake that does not really fill the Fish up, but will keep them grubbing around for a fair time. As I said above, it can be used Neat in PVA Bags, mixed in with Particles, groundbaits, boilies etc in a Spod.
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31-03-2008, 08:11 PM
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