enzymes in baits.

[saul]

I've noticed that some of you are using or have used baits that are claiming to be using enzymes made by other bait company's !

So I would hope you will be asking the same questions to them also ???
It would be interesting see the other "names" from bait company's with enzyme baits join in this debate as I'm sure if they have worked out how it's done then they will also not be giving much away !

Cheers
Saul

[rogue trader]

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[Pete_B]

It is interesting that questions are appearing from users of one particular bait......

[kevw]

Originally Posted by saul

I've noticed that some of you are using or have used baits that are claiming to be using enzymes made by other bait company's !

So I would hope you will be asking the same questions to them also ???
It would be interesting see the other "names" from bait company's with enzyme baits join in this debate as I'm sure if they have worked out how it's done then they will also not be giving much away !

Cheers
Saul

I've got a few kilos of MB's enzyme, not really tried it yet but am off this weekend. Have noticed it is sold as a reactive enzyme and am sure someone will be good enough to explain the difference between this and an active enzyme bait

[Pete_B]

If you put it in your airing cupboard, or a warm environment.... it will go soft or crumbly... if it doesn't it has NO ACTIVE ENZYMES IN IT.... see the MB thread... I will probably get banned as I am about to rip these know nothing wannabes to shreds... but hey... life is great...

I would guess that MB should be on the Enzyme thread along with Premier and the next copycat who knows ferk all..... shame they're not... maybe they are asking for me to give them the answer... it will not be forthcoming boys... do your own research......

It is the next breakthrough in baits.. it is NOT dangerous... pH and temperature take care of that.... there are other things in the future...

[braidman]

Why dont you just answer the questions......

You are doing more harm to Dean's business than any enzyme ever could


Tbh i have never considered using Deans or any other company's enzyme related bait.

Your attitude to anyone who questions your bait, results of testing or ethics astounds me. Your supposed to be trying to show the company you represent in a good light, not abuse potential customers

New sales technique.....Abuse em till they buy

I now know I'll not be using your bait for sure. Other bait companies may fare better in winning my custom so long as they put up some results and answer questions put to them without a bad attitude......

I may only be one customer Dean has lost( never had) but if 10 other people feel the same and they tell there mates Dean could lose 100s of potential customers just because of your attitude. I'm sure he will be very happy to here that and offer you many thanks

So much for the customer always being right...

In your case Caveat emptor


You say you advise Dean on enzyme baits.

I'd like to offer Dean a little free advice. Ditch you and your advice before you cause his bait company permanent and irreparable damage....

[patos]

Originally Posted by Pete_B

It is interesting that questions are appearing from users of one particular bait......

And what bait would that be Pete?? Unless of course you're going to 'sit on the fence' with this question as well
The thing is I cant see throughout the whole thread anyone saying 'I use 'insert bait name here' and would like to ask a question, unless of course i've forgotten how to read and missed it.
I'm also a little 'put out' that you think its a conspiracy against you, i've just had a look at the MB thread and you're accusing all and sundry of being people they aint! If you can class me having a chat with a couple of science teachers and a chap called Derek who I walk round the park with every morning, dog walking Pete, i'm not on that bus, then a conspiracy it is!
Nobodys accused you of anything Pete, I just want to know that everything is safe and you have done enough testing, you appear not to have done any if your lack of replys is anything to go by.
Now to save just a little credibility and indeed dignity why not shut us all up with a few pics or examples of how you have tested. Its no big deal if you have done it surely to goodness and you certainly dont have to reveal specifics.
I eagerly await your enthusiastic reply

Incidentally the excellent quote from the post before this is courtesy of Derek, thanks mate, i'd never have remembered it

Data that is not freely available is not data, it is merely conjecture.
Usually such 'data' is biased, 'processed' and/or flawed, that being the reason it is not freely available.
Commonly such 'data' does not actually exist, the real reason why it is not 'made' available.

RogueTrader....Why the padlock?? Either you have a vested interest in Petes work or you dont care about the welfare of our carp? If indeed its all a bit much for you mate just dont read it, that would be as easy as Pete coming up with some evidence.

[Matthew Duszynski]

Originally Posted by patos

RogueTrader....Why the padlock??

I think he was using the 'Lock and Key' analogy to explain his understanging of enzymes

Matt

[Julian Grattidge]

Originally Posted by Pete_B

I do NOT criticise other bait companies, nor pass comments on their products..... I could, but out of general harmony I don't...

Wouldn't say that's how your above post reads, Pete. My ethos in business has always been to concentrate on improving my own services and products, rather than slate those of others who may not be in a position to respond. Results on MB and Premier products speak for themselves.

Growing extremely tired of this now, it's been going nowhere for sometime, and as insults now seem to outweigh any valid content - it's closed.

I suggest all those who are still 'searching' for answers take it to pm.