Adding the relevent vitamins

[mancity]

How do you go about adding vitamins to your basemix?

The only product I know of is CC Moore's Cyprivit

[HAWTHORN]

Go to Nutrabaits web site.

[netbustercarp]

adding seaweed or kelp adds vitamins and minerals

[Deano]

Scotty's the man for this one mate Many ingredients however already have a vitamin content.Seaweed/kelp is a goodun contains minerals and B vitamins I believe.All the milk proteins have vitamin A and D as does fishmeal.Not too sure about whats in the birdfoods ingredients but you can bet some have vitamins in. I have never added any specific vitamin/mineral supplement and done ok.I just rely on the inherent content.Sure somebody else can add more

[netbustercarp]

Originally Posted by Deano

Scotty's the man for this one mate Many ingredients however already have a vitamin content.Seaweed/kelp is a goodun contains minerals and B vitamins I believe.All the milk proteins have vitamin A and D as does fishmeal.Not too sure about whats in the birdfoods ingredients but you can bet some have vitamins in. I have never added any specific vitamin/mineral supplement and done ok.I just rely on the inherent content.Sure somebody else can add more

couldnt agree with you more ive done ok without adding cyprivit like you say most of the ingredients have their own vits and minerals

[carp2bait@yahoo.co.uk]

Indeed,if your baits are difficient in anyway shape or form of the vital key vits and mins,which,if you are using a combination of fishmeal,milk protein,birdfoods ect and are using a reasonable lipid source,ie,ground nut oil,sesame and so on,coupled with the eggs,it is very unlikely that the carp are not recieving all that is needed within that bait

Whatever is amiss will surely be available through natural larders within their environment

Regards,Dean

[Deano]

Interesting reading...maybe a little heavy going though for non scientists...

http://www.dsm.com/en_US/downloads/d...4_VitaminC.pdf

[carp2bait@yahoo.co.uk]

So to prevent disease and help a carps immune system an inclusion of vitamins A AND C would be benificial is what the fish farmers are suggesting

[scotty]

Originally Posted by Deano

Scotty's the man for this one mate Many ingredients however already have a vitamin content.Seaweed/kelp is a goodun contains minerals and B vitamins I believe.All the milk proteins have vitamin A and D as does fishmeal.Not too sure about whats in the birdfoods ingredients but you can bet some have vitamins in. I have never added any specific vitamin/mineral supplement and done ok.I just rely on the inherent content.Sure somebody else can add more

around 15- 20g per 500g of base mix is enough to boost any bait. carp are well aware of the need to maintain the right balance of these nutritional materials and there senses are zoned in to locating any source of vitamins and minerals. they can smell these dietary requirments making seaweeds a perfect additive.

[carp2bait@yahoo.co.uk]

Scotty mate,

are you telling me that carp can actually tell or smell if a bait has vitamins and minerals in?

And if so,how?????????

[scotty]

Originally Posted by carp2bait@yahoo.co.uk

Scotty mate,

are you telling me that carp can actually tell or smell if a bait has vitamins and minerals in?

And if so,how?????????

you answer my previous question and i will politely reply to yours good manners and all that mate.

[carp2bait@yahoo.co.uk]

Sorry mate,what question was that?....

Looked,but cant find your question bruv?

[Deano]

Originally Posted by carp2bait@yahoo.co.uk

Sorry mate,what question was that?....

Looked,but cant find your question bruv?

Take a look in the enzymes thread Dean...if you can stomach it....lol. and all will be revealed....

[scotty]

Originally Posted by carp2bait@yahoo.co.uk

Sorry mate,what question was that?....

Looked,but cant find your question bruv?

the question was and i quote you said. (no one else has acheived what we have commercially) i asked how do you know this?
still waiting bruv. so in the mean time i will answer your question. not for you because i think us hard grafting ( i speak for all us local bait makers) are giving away far to much info as it is to your self. but my answer will be for the allready experienced and some vastly experienced lads that regularly use this forum. not just to push new products....The carp bait scene is much and varied and includes colours/enhancers/flavours/sweetners/powdered attractors&liquids/ amino acids and ENZYMES. this subject can be made as complicated or as simple as you like. for the neutrals i will make it both. carp have a remarkable range of acceptable smells and tastes. and are known to respond to feding stimuli that would apaul are good selves. us humans have only have a limited range of smells that come through are nasel passage. the carps is many more times as receptive as ours. there smell organs (the olfactory membranes) are thousands more times as sensitive as ours. a carps sense of smell is so tuned to receiving messages from chemical stimuli that its instincts recognise food sources.carp fend for themselves from day one and there highly developed feeding instincts are the results from thousands of years of evolution. we on the other hand are told from day one what to eat and whats good for us. if you are involved in the bait industry. the complex formulations of bait manufacturing. (ie what works what could work ) you need to have a simple understanding of science. but before you gain this what is in my veiw far more important is the understanding of fish behaviour.
regards scott

[Joephus]

Are humans not just as developed? A couple of thousand years of widely avalible food will surely not take away our ability to know what is good for us which has developed of 100 of thousand of years?!

Ok we dont use it alot or more it doesnt come up as we have a wide variety of easily avalible food and eat so many vitamins etc that our needs are filled almost constantly. But it does show up, our cravings for food. Those moments when you know you need something with sugar in for the energy, pregnent women sucking coal for the vitamins and so on.

I generally feel carp are much the same way, eating when and where they can but if they specifically need something there food source will change for a short time to fill this need. However much the same as for us, if we pile a bait full of all the things they need they wont have these sparadic requirements.