mainline-the cell

[daveabbott]

Originally Posted by Blue

The angler catches the fish, the boilie catches the angler.

Very true point

[oscar_grouch]

This used to do my head in "new and improved" better than our last carp catcher. I used to take a lot of notice about what baits were "pulling them in" and would take two or three types of bait on sessions just to cover all bases. After advise from many wiser heads on this forum i decided to stick to a proven bait and concentrate on my water craft instead. I now exclusively use mixed particles and essential b5 boiles.i am a much more relaxed angler and my fishing has improved by concentrating on the most important aspect-water craft.
Oscar

[skilledhandz]

Pro-active pineapple has a sweet taste and coconut in it and it was touted as a great winter bait but it isnt.Now pulse has something different going on in there and fusion is a good bait as well.The actives and assasins are all good baits but i cant see anything new being any different except the name and the bull,oh and the price.

[IanB]

Mainline baits catch fish and ive used a few mainly the Grange when it first came out and it was awsome. I used the pineapple a couple of winters ago and caught well on it.
However no longer prepared to pay £11 a bag for boilies when there are some excellent boilies around the £6 -£7 a kilo price. I probably use in excess of 50 kilos of boilies a year so price is an issue.

[Big Fella]

Originally Posted by IanB

Mainline baits catch fish and ive used a few mainly the Grange when it first came out and it was awsome. I used the pineapple a couple of winters ago and caught well on it.
However no longer prepared to pay £11 a bag for boilies when there are some excellent boilies around the £6 -£7 a kilo price. I probably use in excess of 50 kilos of boilies a year so price is an issue.

I use mainline baits and get them for around £6-£7 a kilo but I buy 50kg at a time. I know it's a lot to shell out in one go ,but it's better than getting a couple of kilo's a week at shop price. You just need to shop about a bit

[IanB]

Originally Posted by Big Fella

I use mainline baits and get them for around £6-£7 a kilo but I buy 50kg at a time. I know it's a lot to shell out in one go ,but it's better than getting a couple of kilo's a week at shop price. You just need to shop about a bit

Never found it at that price personally, if you can get it at £6 a kilo you are doing very, very well, is it diluted by a bait roller?? I know it happens. Ive had B5 from well known bait rollers and its nowt like what essential supply. (still catches though)

I tend to buy 15- 20 kilo at a time. (id need a bigger freezer for 50K) Currently more than happy on CC moores xxx which i get rolled cheaper than cc moores do it at.

i think carp anglers overlok the amount of quality bait that is produced localy and tend to pick a bait due to its nice packaging or beacuse its publicised in the mag's ive had better result's using bait from a local bait company than i had from using the more well known company's mainline,dinamite,cc moore heathrow ect im not denying that these can be quality baits but just my personal opion that the smaller less well known company's are overlooked just because they dont produce fancy packaging or advertise in the mag's.and are often sold at a much more resionable price

[stes]

what colour is it

[silverbirch]

Is it just me, but there is absolutely no need to spend 6 or 11 quid a kilo on any boilies....to ween your fish on to...just about every other bait going is cheaper ( probably more natural ) and no less effective....mung beans, hemp, black eyed, tigers, bread, corn, worms, maples the list is endless..... anything....for 2 quid a kilo ish...or less


.....Boilies however well concieved are unnatural and expensive items that sustain a perculiar place amongst angling baits.....one i personally can not understand ...

Why use a small unnatural ball carrying a flavour when you can use the real product ( tuna, pineapple, maple etc...) for less cost??? ...Can some one explain?

[cheshireCarper]

Originally Posted by silverbirch

Why use a small unnatural ball carrying a flavour when you can use the real product ( tuna, pineapple, maple etc...) for less cost??? ...Can some one explain?

Because the catch fish!!!!

[Deano]

Originally Posted by silverbirch

Is it just me, but there is absolutely no need to spend 6 or 11 quid a kilo on any boilies....to ween your fish on to...just about every other bait going is cheaper ( probably more natural ) and no less effective....mung beans, hemp, black eyed, tigers, bread, corn, worms, maples the list is endless..... anything....for 2 quid a kilo ish...or less


.....Boilies however well concieved are unnatural and expensive items that sustain a perculiar place amongst angling baits.....one i personally can not understand ...

Why use a small unnatural ball carrying a flavour when you can use the real product ( tuna, pineapple, maple etc...) for less cost??? ...Can some one explain?

The particles you mention have caught 100's nay 1000's of carp but the boilies are a little more selective in that they are pretty resilient to nuisance fish and a good boilie is also very good for the fish(better than the particles).I love corn and use it a lot in conjunction with boilies and carp love corn but so do all the other little fishes...lol...As for cost I can make a boilie with just as much nutritional value as a 10 quid a kilo bait for about £3.00 but a kilo of corn costs me 80p...thats another reason why I like the corn.Corn is a classic bait and I dont know why I dont see more anglers still using it nowadays.I have watched carp eating corn before they will take boilies they just love it BUT they do love boilies as well.
So I think boilies are just convenient and most people know how good they are for the fish...although you still pick up the odd tinca, snotty and even roach on the boilies...

But you probably know all that already Silverbirch...lol...

[smokey]

its all a confidence thing in my book ......... Active8 say no more lol

smokey

[silverbirch]

Being selective of the bigger fish (using 18-22mm+, snowmen etc ) is logical Deano and being resistant to smaller fishes attentions for long periods ( although Enterprise are reducing the problem with the placcy imitations and spodding has solved the limitation of distance with smaller lighter baits)........

CC, Question is, if boilies did not exist then would we be catching the same numbers of fish on other possibley less expensive alternative baits...I suspect we would.

But thinking about it perhaps some of the fish might but weighing in a little lighter on the scales without their HNV supplements....which if the carps weight is a high priority to you could be another plus.

also does anyone know/think quality boilies contribute to keeping the fish in good or better condition?

Either way I've never used them and can not bring myself to buy them.

Any other plusses spring to mind?

Originally Posted by silverbirch

Why use a small unnatural ball carrying a flavour when you can use the real product ( tuna, pineapple, maple etc...) for less cost??? ...Can some one explain?

Why would a a chunk of tuna or pineapple be any more natural than a boilie? It's not as though they fall from lakeside bushes ?

A pineapple boilie is more attractive to a carp due to certain chemicals that it contains - some which may not be inherent in a chunk of pineapple.

I suspect you already know this silver, but good on you for trying to get a discussion going !

[silverbirch]

Sorry Lee was replying while you and Smokey posted..

I very rarely fish more than a rod out, particularly now my new weapon of choice is a Hardy Richard Walker glass fibre 10 foot Avon teamed with a vintage Young's Rapidex centrepin ( Try it, if you want to build in a whole new dimension to your angling - it's not just the vintage tackle thing, kick - it's genuine fish playing nirvana - just off for a quick evening session now..haha..Tonight it's condensed milk marinated tigers over partimix soaked and boiled in milk..my experience is they will eat just about anything you give them.)

So distance is never the issue Lee and Smokes I can totally understand the confidence thing, I just do not share or possess it with them.

Sorry off track...I can see they could be the best choice in certain circumstances and I only question the fact they seem to be chosen with out consideration too often by too many....a convenient but expensive automatic first choice.