halibuts tobe or not to be

[leadthower]

what are peoples thoughts on using vast quantitys of high oil pellets for ageing speciemen leenys?

[Nige]

Not keen myself, heard too much about the mass amount affecting their liver and ultimatlym their heart, wouldn'nt want to loose a Capey or any other leney due to the use of pellets (simmo-style).

Plus I wouldn't be keen on using them anyway as I feel other baits can have similar effects in terms of 'getting them on it' without having such rumoured health risks.

...your thoughts?

[mul]

Originally Posted by leadthower

what are peoples thoughts on using vast quantitys of high oil pellets for ageing speciemen leenys?

Surely that's too much of a general question - all sorts of variables come into the equation (density of stock, angler pressure, water quality/abundance of other food sources etc. etc.).


For my own part (and as quite a big pellet user), I've never seen a water I'm fishing's stock suffer because of over/prolonged use of one specific bait. Although I'm a bit too young to have any experience of the peanut/tigernut onslaught of the 70's/80's.

[kerrwaf]

Originally Posted by leadthower

what are peoples thoughts on using vast quantitys of high oil pellets for ageing speciemen leenys?

redesmere by any chance

[miffa]

Originally Posted by Nige

Not keen myself, heard too much about the mass amount affecting their liver and ultimatlym their heart, wouldn'nt want to loose a Capey or any other leney due to the use of pellets (simmo-style).

Plus I wouldn't be keen on using them anyway as I feel other baits can have similar effects in terms of 'getting them on it' without having such rumoured health risks.

...your thoughts?

sounds like a northern monkey health risk
to much beer and keebabs affect my liver and heart
there again bin told i havnt a heart lol


MIFFA

[Nige]

Originally Posted by miffa

sounds like a northern monkey health risk
to much beer and keebabs affect my liver and heart
there again bin told i havnt a heart lol


MIFFA

I'd guess so.....

[WHEEZY]

Originally Posted by leadthower

what are peoples thoughts on using vast quantitys of high oil pellets for ageing speciemen leenys?

i can see what you r saying,over use and all that but i remember in the 80's when every one used a lot of robin red,in some part's of the countery fish were starting to turn pink with the amont the robin red in the baits ppl were useing so in some way what go's around comes around

[Stig]

We have also had this about both hemp and groundbait in the past as i dont know of anyone on this or any other forum who is a Nimno biologist i dont feel that anyone is suitably qualified to pass judgement on such a subject . However fish have been eating other fish since long before man came along and are very good at knowing what is good for them and what isnt .
The only argument against my last statement is luncheon meat ..lol

[WHEEZY]

am i wrong, but halibut pellets are used to feed halibuts so cant see who they can harm other fish

[Stig]

Originally Posted by WHEEZY

am i wrong, but halibut pellets are used to feed halibuts so cant see who they can harm other fish

I thought they were called that coz they contain halibut oil from the liver etc

[WHEEZY]

no they r used for feeding halibuts on the fish farms just like trout pellets no trout in them just used to feed them

[Stig]

Originally Posted by WHEEZY

no they r used for feeding halibuts on the fish farms just like trout pellets no trout in them just used to feed them

I stand corrected heres what Halibut pellets are used for :


Marine Halibut SP
For excellent feeding response & rapid growth

Marine Halibut is a complete range of diets for halibut and other marine species with a high-energy requirement. These feeds have high protein levels deriving from top-quality ingredients, which also confer a high level of palatability. An excellent feeding response is assured as well as excellent growth rates. The protein and energy contents of the different feed sizes are carefully matched to suit fish size, which will ensure that carcass fat levels are maintained within expected limits.

In addition to excellent physical quality, all feed sizes have been boosted with specific vitamins to provide additional security.

And what goes in them to make them isnt to much different from carp pellets and trout pellets.So i cant really see how they will do any harm

[WHEEZY]

Originally Posted by leadthower

what are peoples thoughts on using vast quantitys of high oil pellets for ageing speciemen leenys?

there are low oil as well as high oil pellets on the market,imo if the fish are getting harmed by the pellets they would stop eating them, just my thoughts

[Joephus]

For aged fish probably not too much of an issue as they havent got that long to get the full hit of fat and oil.

Young fish on the other hand like these fast farmed carp are just not going to live as long. The fatty diet can damage the liver and other organs and its starting to show as many of these fish in waters such as horton are dieing very young indeed.

Fish can get really onto the pellet but have had far better results with a well rounded boilie. Pellets just give fat content which is great for pigging out on but dont provide as many nutrients as a good boilie. They may also have not as fast a turn around inside the carp as some of the better baits meaning the fish will pig out on them and then not return for some time due to a 'clogged upness' to put it as nicely as i can.

Good as a background feed to get some interest but wouldnt use them as a first line of attack.

[johnny dry net]

When fishing for simmos like at the weekend i put a few in, as it seems that the little pellet munchers no nothing else, but normally like you say joe, they are a good attractor in small amounts like funnel web or a pva bag, just to release some oil into the swim to get the fish interested, then a nice juicy fresh boillie for the main course