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Old 18-08-2007, 05:14 PM
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....Oh, and if you get caught short at the lake and need a number 2, you have two options;

A - Dig a hole and bury everything, then cover it up or....

B - See Lee Clarkes signature picture.....

Note: option B does run the risk of you getting arrested if your in a public park area..
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Old 18-08-2007, 08:05 PM
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....Oh, and if you get caught short at the lake and need a number 2, you have two options;

A - Dig a hole and bury everything, then cover it up or....

B - See Lee Clarkes signature picture.....

Note: option B does run the risk of you getting arrested if your in a public park area..
I thought that photo was taken wating for the Stapley Boxing Day Sale to start
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Old 18-08-2007, 08:52 PM
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Taken from the Specialist Angling Alliance code of conduct -

"Conduct At The Waterside



Always park your vehicle considerately and safely, especially on farmland.



Show consideration to other anglers and water users. It is good angling practice to minimise bankside noise and movement, and to avoid fishing in a way which interferes with other water users.



Always consider the peace and quiet enjoyed by residents on or close to fisheries at all times, but especially at night.



Banksticks, umbrella poles and other accessories should not be knocked in with a hammer or other implement. If the ground is very hard, use threaded poles, banksticks, pegs etc.



Do not use bright lights at night; use a shaded torch only.



Before joining other anglers for a social chat, consider that this is not always welcome. If you do so, remove your bait from the water. Also, do not use any equipment such as mobile phones, radios or TVs which are audible to others. Do not shout or use bad language.



Avoid casting into other anglers' swims, or distance casting that stops other anglers from fishing areas of a water normally accessible from their swim. If using two or more rods (subject to Agency byelaws and local club rules), remember that rod butts must not be further apart than a maximum spread of three metres.



Be aware of any specific rules relating to the fishery - and observe them."


Is quite a lengthy read but worth it, can be seen on their website, to the bottom right.

http://www.saauk.org/
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Old 18-08-2007, 09:07 PM
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Only just started out this month and i was wondering if anyone can point me in the right direction of things not to do that **** you guys off... unwritten rules as such. and any tips on a budding carper?
Well done fella for asking about this, it seems to be have been forgotton or ignored by most these days.
If you see a guy setting up, leave him be and wait until he's finished then approach him for a chat.
Leave mallets at home and buy screw in pegs.
Ask the person in the next swim where they are casting BEFORE you cast out.
If someone is having a good day, DONT move in next door or cast as close as you can to their area, unless its a circuit water where others will do it anyway.
Keep your buzzers turned down to a minimum, and off when setting them.
Dont get wrecked on the bank and be a bellend.
When choosing a swim, if its weedy, snaggy, ask yourself is it likely you will land most of your takes, are you experienced enough to fish it.
If a fish snags you up in pads/weed/trees get wet and dont just pull for a break.
Buy a large unhooking mat.
Take litter home even if its not yours and respect the widlife at the water side.
Follow the above and you wont go far wrong.
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Old 18-08-2007, 09:44 PM
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Well done fella for asking about this, it seems to be have been forgotton or ignored by most these days.
If you see a guy setting up, leave him be and wait until he's finished then approach him for a chat.
Leave mallets at home and buy screw in pegs.
Ask the person in the next swim where they are casting BEFORE you cast out.
If someone is having a good day, DONT move in next door or cast as close as you can to their area, unless its a circuit water where others will do it anyway.
Keep your buzzers turned down to a minimum, and off when setting them.
Dont get wrecked on the bank and be a bellend.
When choosing a swim, if its weedy, snaggy, ask yourself is it likely you will land most of your takes, are you experienced enough to fish it.
If a fish snags you up in pads/weed/trees get wet and dont just pull for a break.
Buy a large unhooking mat.
Take litter home even if its not yours and respect the widlife at the water side.
Follow the above and you wont go far wrong.
spot on fella
one thing i do is take any litter i find on the bank home with me and dispose of properly you'll be surprised but i find its actully the 'match or 'pleasure' anglers that leave more rubbish than anybody else. i find carp anglers have more respect for there surroundings than these other sort of people in no way is this a biast point of view but from my time on the bank this is what i have found.
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Old 19-08-2007, 10:46 AM
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If a fish snags you up in pads/weed/trees get wet and dont just pull for a break.
Sorry Hotshot, but I've got to dissagree with you here in the strongest terms possible (although I do appreciate your sentiment and why you have posted the comment above).

No matter how much we want to look after our capture, no fish is worth dying for. Whilst some anglers may be happy wading in for a snagged fish, those anglers will generally be those with a huge amount of knowledge on the water in question. Information such as depth of the swim, bottom contours, bed material, location of snags etc. are all vital if you are to go into a lake with some measure of safety.

For anyone without this knowledge, wading into a lake can be extremely dangerous and cannot be recommended. Sudden deep spots, underwater weed beds, pockets of silt and submerged snags can all be lethal. Not to mention hypothermia and good old fashioned drowning from your waders overtopping!

In my opinion, the general recommendation to go in after fish cannot recommended and should not be posted on forums. Some anglers may be able to do it safely, but the reality of forums is that they are read by a large number of people, some of whom are impressionable beginners. Going in after a fish could kill you and no fish is worth it.

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spot on fella
one thing i do is take any litter i find on the bank home with me and dispose of properly you'll be surprised but i find its actully the 'match or 'pleasure' anglers that leave more rubbish than anybody else. i find carp anglers have more respect for there surroundings than these other sort of people in no way is this a biast point of view but from my time on the bank this is what i have found.
100% true imo, and most carp anglers have alot more respect for the fish aswell.. i was watching my mate in the final of the browning youth masters and as the guy had finished weighing the keepnets at the end he just launched the fish from a great height back into the water out of the weigh sling. I was thinking about saying something but the people around him were all match anglers so they see this as the norm. They were also putting the weighsling down on gravel and tipping the keep nets from a great height and the fish where just hitting there heads off the floor. But to match anglers the fish they catch are only "weight" at the end of a match so it doesnt bother them
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Old 19-08-2007, 11:32 AM
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Sorry Hotshot, but I've got to dissagree with you here in the strongest terms possible (although I do appreciate your sentiment and why you have posted the comment above).

No matter how much we want to look after our capture, no fish is worth dying for. Whilst some anglers may be happy wading in for a snagged fish, those anglers will generally be those with a huge amount of knowledge on the water in question. Information such as depth of the swim, bottom contours, bed material, location of snags etc. are all vital if you are to go into a lake with some measure of safety.

For anyone without this knowledge, wading into a lake can be extremely dangerous and cannot be recommended. Sudden deep spots, underwater weed beds, pockets of silt and submerged snags can all be lethal. Not to mention hypothermia and good old fashioned drowning from your waders overtopping!

In my opinion, the general recommendation to go in after fish cannot recommended and should not be posted on forums. Some anglers may be able to do it safely, but the reality of forums is that they are read by a large number of people, some of whom are impressionable beginners. Going in after a fish could kill you and no fish is worth it.

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THAT IS SPOT ON.
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Old 20-08-2007, 08:01 AM
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Cheers guys, went to mottram on saturday and they were 3 lads who were constantly casting to the other side of the lake and crossing over everyone else, looked like they had a ton weight on because it splashed that much, also every 2 minutes you would hear there alarms going as they were messing, they were shouting to each other and on the phone all day like Trigger Happy TV shouting GRRRR
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Sorry Hotshot, but I've got to dissagree with you here in the strongest terms possible (although I do appreciate your sentiment and why you have posted the comment above).

No matter how much we want to look after our capture, no fish is worth dying for. Whilst some anglers may be happy wading in for a snagged fish, those anglers will generally be those with a huge amount of knowledge on the water in question. Information such as depth of the swim, bottom contours, bed material, location of snags etc. are all vital if you are to go into a lake with some measure of safety.

For anyone without this knowledge, wading into a lake can be extremely dangerous and cannot be recommended. Sudden deep spots, underwater weed beds, pockets of silt and submerged snags can all be lethal. Not to mention hypothermia and good old fashioned drowning from your waders overtopping!

In my opinion, the general recommendation to go in after fish cannot recommended and should not be posted on forums. Some anglers may be able to do it safely, but the reality of forums is that they are read by a large number of people, some of whom are impressionable beginners. Going in after a fish could kill you and no fish is worth it.

Mike.
Fair play, I can see what your saying and why, but I did also add that when choosing to fish a snaggy, weedy swim, ask yourself are you experienced enough to fish it. A couple of years ago I was chatting to a guy on the dam wall at c/thorne (when the whole lake was weed choked) I asked him how he was getting on "lost 2 in the weed mate" was his reply. I looked at his swim and the weed was proper thick. I told him most of the time fish are still on long after you have felt their last kick in the weed and did he give it time to get moving again. "Im only on for the afternoon and have'nt got time to wait hours for it to get on the move" he said I questioned why he hadnt gone in for it or moved swim as in my opinion if he wasnt prepared to go the whole "9yds" then he shouldnt be fishing there in the first place. He just shrugged and said he had no where else to go. The guy was a bellend in my opinion, he was obviously fishing for takes and not fish.
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totally agree with you hotshot, ive seen alot of inexperienced anglers fishing the snaggest part of the lake and ive seen carp stuck in trees with line/braid wrapped around the bodies, ive even seen big carp die because of anglers not taking advise and basically not given a s**t.

so hotshot 100% agree with you if your not experienced enough to fish a certain swim then don't fish it
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Top advice that pal If only more people did that..
something me and my mate always do... shows respect for people enjoying the same hobby as you
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something me and my mate always do... shows respect for people enjoying the same hobby as you

Where about where you fishing on Sat night on Boles? Were you in the woods with a mate under 2 brollies?
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There are venues and venues...most are ok..clay lined, gravel bottomed, shallow but for example Top Pool is a very old lake with huge silt deposits in certain areas...and I'm talking 18'' water and six foot of silt...I fish the margins and like to 'walk' them in chesties feeling for hard/flat/snaggy spots ...these surveys are conducted with great care but I nearly came a cropper at TP...i.e. chesties filled with water...I would never recommend entering the water in the heat of an adrenaline fuelled fight...

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Where about where you fishing on Sat night on Boles? Were you in the woods with a mate under 2 brollies?
we were in peg 16 and 17 i think it was, under 1 brolly, u on the other side or by the snags?
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