i can't tie rigs

[caenmatt]

Hi
call me what you want,

i sit down for hours trying to tie rigs, they either fall apart or would spook a hippo from the bait . i try and keep it simple i need a barbless rig that would suite most fishing, i mostly fish pop ups, pva and somtimes pop ups or bottom baits over particles and hemp. i lost 6 runs on Monday, draging me into the weeds and the hook pulled every time. heard the Korda wide gape would sort this out.

my all round fishing seems to be ok as i am getting the runs, its just that really really important bit on the end that lets me down...

can anyone give me a shopping list and a very easy IDIOTS guide on a simple all round rig that even i could tie

[daveabbott]

Best with korda long shank x hooks

material errrm depends where you are fishing really and the lake bottom

Things like / Snake bite / Mantis are easy to use

A swivel depending on the size of your lead clip

Easy done mate

Just stick to standard hair rigs with a shot on to weight the pop up down for starters until your learn more.

If you live near me in walkden pop round for a brew and i will show you a few rigs and show you how to tie them, best ways to use rigs

Also got the fox modern guide to carp fishing here if you want it some good tips on rigs in there, but some are complicated

Just stick to basic rigs we all know they work and in some circumstances are the most effective

Tight lines

Regards
D Abbott
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[geoffjohnson]

Hi mate i keep my rigs very simple and they seem to get a good hook hold when i am getting runs they get hooked in the bottom lip everytime,i use esp raptor big t available in barbed or barbless with a piece of silicone tubing on bend of the hook level with point and a piece of clear shrink tubing steamed over kettle and form a curve,or you could try usng ready tied rigs i have used the nash ones in the past the blowback version is a cracker with the small ring on shank of hook very well tied they have a very stiff section followed by a soft braid the rig is called combi link ring blowout

[booth91]

ill do a couple of step by step of a few of my favourite rigs for ya mate! just coz im bored!

[Chesh]

with all due respect your first line of "call me what you want" is a bit unfair on yourself fella everybody has to start somewhere...

three words KEEP IT SIMPLE !!

a standard knotless knot tied to swivel will do you fine.. as forhooklink material.. any decent maunfacturer will provide you with a variety of quality hooklinks, ESP, Gardner, Fox, TFG, Nash.. they all do a job

when you say you spooked a hippo.. how did you know this? did you see this fish in the margins in crystal clear water? if so use a hooklink material that will blend in with the bottom..

Hooks? well take your pick... again reputable makers ESP, Owner, Fox, Korda all supply hooks that will do a job..

Search through the various thread on this site about hook patterns, hooklink materials etc.. and you will not go wrong theres a weath of experience using this site.. USE IT!!

but dont give up... your doing something right if your gettin runs..

if need be speak to a local angler and ask him to maybe tie you a rig or two.. or in conversation get onto thetopic of rigs and make sum up withthem.. i have done that loads of times with people like yourself who are 'unsure' and lack confidence about tying the right rig etc... if you paidme £40 i would give you a master class in tying PVA rigs.. my forte

KEEP IT SIMPLE are my only words of advise

[booth91]

hope this helps

[daveabbott]

http://www.toasteds.co.uk/fm1/images...tlessknot1.wmv

http://www.toasteds.co.uk/fm1/images...lfgrinner1.wmv

[Chesh]

top stuff there chaps.. couldnt get more simpler than that !!

all you need is some 'John Wilson' style guitar music in the back ground... roll over Danny Fairbrass theres a new boy in town

[daveabbott]

Originally Posted by Chesh

top stuff there chaps.. couldnt get more simpler than that !!

all you need is some 'John Wilson' style guitar music in the back ground... roll over Danny Fairbrass theres a new boy in town

pmsl

[booth91]

iv got my faithful ammnesia combi like comin up later!

[Trenchman]

Isn't that a tucked half blood knot, not a grinner? Apologies in advance if I'm mistaken!

[Stig]

everyone can tie rigs some can do it from pictures in magazines ands books etc but some have to be shown how to a few times then have whoever is teaching them sit and watch as they tie a few rigs pointing out where they may be going wrong if they do .
If you are having problems then arrange to meet one or 2 of the good lads off the forum to meet up for a sesh somewhere and they can go through a few rigs with you.
Bloody hell mate its not rocket science trying to tie rigs from pictures may seam like rocket science but you will realize how simple they really are if someone shows you.
Ive been at this carping game for over 20 years now and i still cant tie a Palomar knot .There again i don't need to know how to tie one as i use an alternative which IMO is just as good and has never let me down . Asking for a bit of a leg up to get to where you want to be is no disgrace you ask someone they teach you ,you learn and then go on to teach someone else .They then do the same and so and so on .Thats what in my book the brother/sister hood of angling is all about . Obtaining how to from one source and passing what you know on seek help and give help wherever you can

[Nige]

Like the above, keeping things simple is key.

Magazines are great for learning some rigs, but some are rather complicated in my opinion, and there is a *lot* of advertising going on there.

All the brands will do hooks/hooklength material that is adequate for the job, the issue is selecting a good combination of components, and combining them with effective knots to your own persoanl preferance and the water/fishing scenario.

Many of the above rigs are fine and will catch fish I can assure you. Try the coated braids combined with a shot for pop-up rigs initally, and either mono/braided/stiffer materials for your bottom baits.

There are many, many debates/questions/issues with rigs and there is no such 'perfect rig' or definitive answers, despite what these videos...etc will tell you. So the trick is to just play around with bits of line and seeing what knots seem to work well, and then implementing this into your fishing.

As daft as it sounds, my dad used to give me pieces of string to tie to the door handle when I was much younger to learn a few basics knots - the point I'm trying to make is that 'messing around' and basically practising will enable you to tie a decent knot, which can then lead to the tieing of rigs; and this can then be a basis for you to go on experiment with other kinds.

My own preference is usually of 3 basic(ish) rigs, and 2 of these 3 are normally always used whenever I go fishing.

Hope this helps, and good luck

[chukie]

Originally Posted by caenmatt

Hi
call me what you want,

i sit down for hours trying to tie rigs, they either fall apart or would spook a hippo from the bait . i try and keep it simple i need a barbless rig that would suite most fishing, i mostly fish pop ups, pva and somtimes pop ups or bottom baits over particles and hemp. i lost 6 runs on Monday, draging me into the weeds and the hook pulled every time. heard the Korda wide gape would sort this out.

my all round fishing seems to be ok as i am getting the runs, its just that really really important bit on the end that lets me down...

can anyone give me a shopping list and a very easy IDIOTS guide on a simple all round rig that even i could tie

Where about's you from mate prehaps there is some one close to you that you could meet with and they could give you a bit of help i live about 10 mins of alton towers if this helps let me know there is some top class anglers on here that i am sure be more that willing to help.

[kermit]

Some very good advice above, which I'm not going to repeat. However, one thing worth adding is the golden rule:

"If it looks wrong it is wrong"

If you are not 100% sure on a knot or component then cut it off and start again. If you are ever tempted to think 'that will do' then, simply, it won't. A fresh rig takes 5 minutes to tie (once you've taken everyone up on the lessons offered above ) and could be in the water for 12 hours. A suspect knot, or wrong length hooklink could be a wasted 12 hours.

Good luck with the rigs - you'll get there soon enough.

Mike.